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So a bunch of busy work by unit(s) to make a commander feel good about themselves and make themselves more army will mean they will be a better leader for the institution? Not sure I buy that one although I understand where you are coming from. While not universal my experience has been that the venn diagram between COs/commanders that want that kind of change of command and folks with narcissism overlaps quite a bit. I rather they just do their jobs with competence rather than trying to show folks how army they are. Although a bit of a tangent, reminds me of the Div/CMBG Ex MR measuring contest where each succesive CMBG tried to bring more to the field to one up the last CMBG.Everytime I see one of these change of command things, with everyone sitting behind a desk in a sedentary manner, I think 'begin as you mean to go on....' - sadly.
Unclipping from a parachute on a drop zone, hopping off a tank, or something like that, might be a better message to send I'm thinking
It was 1 CMBG HQ and Sigs...So a bunch of busy work by unit(s) to make a commander feel good about themselves and make themselves more army will mean they will be a better leader for the institution? Not sure I buy that one although I understand where you are coming from. While not universal my experience has been that the venn diagram between COs/commanders that want that kind of change of command and folks with narcissism overlaps quite a bit. I rather they just do their jobs with competence rather than trying to show folks how army they are. Although a bit of a tangent, reminds me of the Div/CMBG Ex MR measuring contest where each succesive CMBG tried to bring more to the field to one up the last CMBG.
Now if you take over a unit while it is on a Op LENTUS or it is in the field then it makes sense to probably incorporate it to some degree. I wasn't at the Change of Command but pretty sure Scott McKenzie took over 1 Svc Bn on a rooftop while on the Calgary floods. I may be slightly misremembering tho
I just hate table top CoC’sSo a bunch of busy work by unit(s) to make a commander feel good about themselves and make themselves more army will mean they will be a better leader for the institution? Not sure I buy that one although I understand where you are coming from. While not universal my experience has been that the venn diagram between COs/commanders that want that kind of change of command and folks with narcissism overlaps quite a bit. I rather they just do their jobs with competence rather than trying to show folks how army they are. Although a bit of a tangent, reminds me of the Div/CMBG Ex MR measuring contest where each succesive CMBG tried to bring more to the field to one up the last CMBG.
Now if you take over a unit while it is on a Op LENTUS or it is in the field then it makes sense to probably incorporate it to some degree. I wasn't at the Change of Command but pretty sure Scott McKenzie took over 1 Svc Bn on a rooftop while on the Calgary floods. I may be slightly misremembering tho
Thanks....I figured I was misrememberingIt was 1 CMBG HQ and Sigs...
The 1 CER Cof C in that same era was conducted in the main bay where troops were cleaning weapons and having a beer after a VERY long and demanding Ex. The "command table" was merely a place for the key participants to lean over and sign the docs. I do believe the Bde Comd bought a round as well
Well yea that defeats the purpose I suppose. Can't say I have seen one like that other than trotting out a table on parade to do the actual signing, but I suppose it has happenedI just hate table top CoC’s
Especially if some troops need to be standing for it.
I know engineers. That you used the singular "a beer" makes me wonder what other details are incorrect in your retelling.The 1 CER Cof C in that same era was conducted in the main bay where troops were cleaning weapons and having a beer after a VERY long and demanding Ex. The "command table" was merely a place for the key participants to lean over and sign the docs. I do believe the Bde Comd bought a round as well
SM Smith's dad was my CSM when I was in Croatia with 1 VP - he used to take the CQ staff and the Coy Clerk out on night ops driving his Iltis around like a complete madman in blackout conditions and no NVG's trying to find bad people doing bad people things. I rarely saw him yell at anyone but you knew damn well he was the boss. IIRC, Jr was with the Anti-Armour Platoon on that deployment...Everytime I see one of these change of command things, with everyone sitting behind a desk in a sedentary manner, I think 'begin as you mean to go on....' - sadly.
Unclipping from a parachute on a drop zone, hopping off a tank, or something like that, might be a better message to send I'm thinking
Everytime I see one of these change of command things, with everyone sitting behind a desk in a sedentary manner, I think 'begin as you mean to go on....' - sadly.
Unclipping from a parachute on a drop zone, hopping off a tank, or something like that, might be a better message to send I'm thinking
He was my last platoon commander before I left 2 VPFYI I Was LGen Wright`s first platoon 2 I/C - a temp because the PL WO was away on course so I was it.
IF any of you see him or are in contact with him tell him I congratulate him on his appointment. Who knew in 1994 this would happen.
CWO Jim Smith and I served together at one time as well.
LCdr Wong was the OPS O IIRC when I was at FDU(P). I seem to recall there was a QL 5 CL D class photo done at FDU(P) much the same way not that long ago...must be a new unit tradition.
LCdr Wong was the OPS O IIRC when I was at FDU(P). I seem to recall there was a QL 5 CL D class photo done at FDU(P) much the same way not that long ago...must be a new unit tradition.
Let’s see the USN Seals do thisLCdr Wong was the OPS O IIRC when I was at FDU(P). I seem to recall there was a QL 5 CL D class photo done at FDU(P) much the same way not that long ago...must be a new unit tradition.
That would be it...FDU(P): Behind the scenes and under water - Pacific Navy News
Graduates and instructors of the most recent Clearance Divers and Clearance Diving Officers class at Fleet Diving Unit (Pacific) (FDU(P)) memorialized their graduation with an underwater photo shoot.www.lookoutnewspaper.com
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We tried to make our own tradition for JTAC but sadly in was shot down for reasons I can’t quite understandFDU(P): Behind the scenes and under water - Pacific Navy News
Graduates and instructors of the most recent Clearance Divers and Clearance Diving Officers class at Fleet Diving Unit (Pacific) (FDU(P)) memorialized their graduation with an underwater photo shoot.www.lookoutnewspaper.com
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Lotta bling, little real production!The Canadian Army had its change of command for the Army Commander going from LGen Jocelyn Paul to LGen Michael Wright.
Also the change of appointment for the Army Sergeant Major took place with CWO Jim Smith handing over to CWO Christopher Robin.
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