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Sounds like this: http://dgpaapp.forces.gc.ca/en/defence-capabilities-blueprint/project-details.asp?id=1013
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2021/2022 Start Definition
2024/2025 Start Implementation
2028/2029 Initial Delivery
2030/2031 Final Delivery...
Canada negotiates new armoured combat support vehicles
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The LAV is a tested and proven platform that meets Canada’s Army needs. Having similar combat support vehicles in the Canadian Armed Forces fleet will offer a number of operational advantages, including reduced training and sustainment costs, as well as the availability of common spare parts to fix vehicles quickly during critical operations.
Armoured combat support vehicles serve key roles such as command posts, ambulances, and mobile repair. This new fleet will offer the protection and mobility that CAF members need to conduct their work in operational environments...
https://www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/news/2019/08/canada-negotiates-new-armoured-combat-support-vehicles.html
MarkOttawa said:Dataperson: Quite so, but boy does this announcement seem rushed (election) in view of timeline at your link above:
Liberals unveil multibillion-dollar sole-source deal for light armoured vehicles ahead of election
The federal Liberal government says it plans to award a multibillion-dollar contract for hundreds of light armoured vehicles to General Dynamics Land Systems-Canada without holding a competition, while also giving the company in London, Ont., a $650-million loan.
The surprise loan and sole-sourced deal for 360 LAVs was announced today by Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan, only weeks before a federal election campaign in which the Liberals, New Democrats and Conservatives are expected to fight tooth and nail for seats across southern Ontario.
The government says the new LAVs are different from the ones GDLS has been building for Saudi Arabia as part of a $15-billion deal that has caused the company and federal government endless grief because of the Saudi kingdom’s abysmal human-rights record.
It also says holding a competition was not in the public’s interest because the new vehicles are largely the same as those already owned by the Canadian Forces.
The government, which did not immediately provide details on the loan, also says awarding the sole-sourced contract now will prevent layoffs while saving time and money after the company recently upgraded the military’s existing LAV fleet.
Conservative defence critic James Bezan nonetheless accused the Liberals of “cynical electioneering” and trying to distract attention away from the SNC-Lavalin affair by announcing the deal with GDLS now [but did not criticize the buy itself].
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-liberals-unveil-multibillion-dollar-sole-source-deal-for-light/
MilEME09 said:So basically increasing our LAV fleet by a third, to almost 1000 LAVs CaF wide. I wonder what the varient breakdown is for all of them. While i can say this is trying to buy votes in London, more kit for the caf is welcomed.
"However, no contract has yet been signed, and full details around the price and timeline have yet to be determined."
MilEME09 said:So basically increasing our LAV fleet by a third, to almost 1000 LAVs CaF wide. I wonder what the varient breakdown is for all of them. While i can say this is trying to buy votes in London, more kit for the caf is welcomed.
dapaterson said:...Inconceivable!
Underway said:I suspect (with no evidence) that many of these will be the Recce variant. I'm not sure if the army's original plan of making the Armd Recce squadrons majority TAPV is falling through. There certainly was a lot of pushback.
Alternatively replace things like the Bison Amb with a Lav Amb (LAmb? haha). Might not be the best option but commonality could be advantageous.
ballz said:From the CAF's facebook page...
"They will replace the current combat support fleet : the LAV II Bisons and the M113 Tracked LAVs"
Has some pictures...
The TLAV replacement is apparently a wheeled variant. Replacing the TLAVs with wheeled variants would be a huge mistake.....
Replacing Bisons with a LAV 6.0 variant of the Bison makes sense, and the picture shows it as exactly that. No turret, etc.
The CAF’s Armoured Combat Support Vehicles will be available in eight variants, providing services such as: ambulances, vehicle recovery, engineering, mobile repair, electronic warfare, troop carrying, and command posts.
Underway said:Yay LAmbs are a thing (going with the CAF tradition of naming vehicles after animals... you heard it here first folks). I agree wholeheartedly with the TLAV. They were the vehicle in Afghanistan that was least likely to be damaged by an IED while I was deployed(we suspected due to their cross country mobility, why drive on the road when you could drive beside it? also who needs bridges?).
Link for those who can't find the story on the CAF FB page....
Infanteer said:You suspect wrong.
MSmith said:What makes you say that? I don't see how its out of the realm of possiblity
Underway said:Umm the article posted and discussed in the four posts before you decided to post?? No recce variant. Amb, Repair, Recovery etc...
The one that most interests me is the EW variant. That seems new to the army's vehicle fleet. It's about time, with all the drones and EW warfare popping up from various state and non-state actors.