• Thanks for stopping by. Logging in to a registered account will remove all generic ads. Please reach out with any questions or concerns.

Improved Schooling for Sgt Major's/CWO's


Army.ca Legend
Reaction score
Interesting developments.

Jan 10, 2009
Army Times

Sergeants major, warrants may study at Leavenworth

The storied university campus environment at Fort Leavenworth, Kan., known as “the intellectual center of the Army,” could soon include the Sergeants Major Academy and the Warrant Officers Career College.

The move to relocate the schools may be a few years off, but the idea is getting official consideration. A feasibility study and cost-benefit analysis is underway at the request of Combined Arms Center commander Lt. Gen. William Caldwell.

The initiative is aimed at building a more diverse classroom at the Command and General Staff College by bringing together battlefield leaders with shared experiences and increasingly overlapping levels of responsibility.

“We’re really seeing NCOs operate at a much different level than they have traditionally done and we’re seeing interaction between our field grade officers taking on a whole new aspect of change,” said Dale Ormond, deputy to the commanding general of the Combined Arms Center at Fort Leavenworth.

“We could do mutual training and education between our field grade officers who go to CGSC and our senior NCOs who go to the Sergeants Major Academy,” he said.

Five warrant officers are now taking the yearlong course with field grade officers at Fort Leavenworth, he noted.

The purpose of the feasibility study, he said, is to take a broad look at the considerations that would need to be addressed if one or both schools were moved.

The Sergeants Major Academy at Fort Bliss, Texas, is largely a classroom environment but the Warrant Officer Career College Fort Rucker, Ala., involves some field exercises that require ranges and training lanes that Fort Leavenworth cannot currently accommodate.

Issues being addressed in the study include the number of soldiers, family members and civilians who would have to be relocated, the capacity of current facilities to handle the population influx, what would need to be built and how long it would take for such a plan to fall into the budget process.

Ormond estimates it would take until fiscal 2015 to get military construction money, depending on how high a priority it would be for the Army.

The study also will assess the benefit to the Army of having field grade officers, sergeants major and warrant officers co-located for all those educational activities at Fort Leavenworth.

That is is expected to bring better opportunities for future interaction and collaboration in the operational Army.

“A lot of our senior NCOs are doing things that we’ve educated officers in the past to be able to do and now we’re starting to move toward an educational process for our NCOs and warrant officers that is beyond what you typically would have done in a training scenario,” Ormond said.

The study is due in to Ormond in March.
  Posted 22 March 2009 15:50 
Some info for those interested.

June sgt. maj. board reflects new strategy

Army targets more depth at senior NCO levels
By Jim Tice - Staff writer
Posted : Sunday Mar 22, 2009 9:55:01 EDT

The Army will complete transition to a new professional development system for senior noncommissioned officers in June with the convening of the 2009 command sergeant major and sergeant major training and selection board.

Eligibility criteria and selection procedures that apply to the June 9-28 board reflect the phased introduction of a “select-train-promote” strategy for developing master sergeants.

The new system not only involves promotions, but has prompted the Army to increase the tenure limit for sergeants major from 30 to 32 years, which in turn has relaxed “up or out” rules for most other enlisted ranks.

Primary objectives of the June board are:

• Recommend sergeants major and promotable first sergeants and master sergeants for appointment to command sergeant major.

In a change from past practice, soldiers must serve in a sergeant major position before becoming eligible for appointment to command sergeant major.

• Select first sergeants and master sergeants for attendance at the resident Sergeants Major Course for the purpose of promotion.

First sergeants and master sergeants who already are graduates of the resident or nonresident SMC, and who are selected by the board, will be assigned a promotion sequence number and placed in the queue for advancement to sergeant major.

The June board is the second sergeant major panel to meet since 2007, when Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey approved a realignment of the Army’s professional development system for senior noncommissioned officers.

In announcing plans for the transition, Sgt. Maj. of the Army Kenneth O. Preston said the goal is to develop a deep bench of school-trained and experienced NCOs to serve in senior leadership positions that otherwise might go vacant because of a lack of qualified soldiers.

The Army began attacking the problem last year when it discontinued the early selection of master sergeants to attend the Sergeants Major Course.

However, because it was a transition year for the new system, the 2008 board had to produce two lists — one containing the names of 771 soldiers recommended for promotion and another containing the names of 582 soldiers selected for attendance at the Sergeants Major Course.

The promotion list contains enough names to support sergeant major requirements through May 2010, when the 582 soldiers on the school list will graduate and be frocked, and go to their new assignments wearing sergeant major stripes.

Soldiers on the 2008 promotion list who did not have credit for the Sergeants Major Course were enrolled in Class 36 of the nonresident course.

As reflected in the eligibility rules for the June 2009 board, school attendance is now directly linked to selection for promotion.

More time in grade
Also reflected in this year’s guidance are zones of consideration that increase, by about two years, the time-in-grade requirement for promotion to sergeant major.

This in turn will give soldiers additional time to serve as first sergeants and in other senior leadership positions before advancing to sergeant major.

Officials expect this change will be well-received in the field, where the Army had detected a reluctance of school-trained master sergeants to accept consideration for promotion to sergeant major because they did not feel they were qualified for the demands of the job.

Because of the increase in the promotion point for sergeant major from three years to five, the Army increased the retention control point for sergeant major from 30 to 32 years in December.

Retention control points are the maximum years of service authorized for soldiers at the different enlisted ranks.

The change at the top of the rank ladder has had a ripple effect on the other grades, so that the RCP for first sergeants and master sergeants is now 29 years, a three-year increase.

Similarly, the RCP for sergeants first class increased from 24 to 26 years, and for staff sergeant from 22 to 23 years of service.

What you need to know

Posted : Sunday Mar 22, 2009 9:48:37 EDT

Here are details of the upcoming board for command sergeant major appointments:

• The zone of consideration for command sergeant major appointments will include sergeants major and promotable master sergeants with basic service dates of Dec. 10, 1980, and later, and dates of birth not earlier than Dec. 10, 1950.

First sergeants and master sergeants who meet the service and age requirements also qualify for consideration, provided they have graduated from the Sergeants Major Course.

• The basic zone of consideration for school attendance and promotion will include E-8s with dates of rank of June 10, 2007, and earlier; basic dates of June 10, 1981, through June 10, 1999; and dates of birth not earlier than Dec. 10, 1950. Soldiers with E-8 dates of rank of June 4, 2006, and earlier will be in the primary zone.

• The DOR window for secondary zone consideration, which provides accelerated promotion opportunity to outstanding soldiers, is June 5, 2006, through June 10, 2007.

• Under the new “select-train-promote” strategy, soldiers selected for school will attend Class 61 of the Sergeants Major Course that begins in August 2010 and graduates in May 2011.

• In a change from previous policy, all soldiers selected by the board will be given a post-board suitability screening similar to that given command selectees and general officers.

• NCO evaluation reports submitted for this board must be received at Human Resources Command by May 22.
well... we've revised our own WO/MWO/CWO courses over the last couple of years...
New school of leadership at Fort St-Jean...
geo said:
well... we've revised our own WO/MWO/CWO courses over the last couple of years...
New school of leadership at Fort St-Jean...

Unfortunately we still largely subscribe to the "promte-then-train" system.
some... but we are getting better - from my perspective