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macarena said:Hi, Mates!
May I ask about the Cyber Ops trade ( https://forces.ca/en/career/cyber-operator ), if someone would know in which rank the candidate will be on its BOQT?
I've read somewhere that for some specialized jobs, the candidate is ranked as soldier only in the BMQ.
I would like to confirm it with some veteran, if possible.
As a cyber op, you'd spend your first couple years going to college, paid for by the CAF.
macarena said:Hi, Brihard!
Thanks a lot for your words!
It is really tempting as a trade.
Unfortunatelly, I can't afford 2-3 years being paid as soldier. I am from IT, I have skills and experiences on Information Security, including in a SOC team, but for this while the CAF doesn't seem to be accepting DEO for this trade.
Brihard said:(...) have you considered Communication Security Establishment, or Canadian Security Intelligence Service? Both do some pretty amazing work and have a huge need for skilled and loyal IT professionals.
macarena said:I've seen some months ago, some job posts from CSIS, but they were asking for more years of experience in Information Security that I have.
But, anyways, thanks for this extra tip also.
Nuggs said:There isn't one at this point.
There has been lots of talk for the past few years. SigO and CELE both with hats in the ring. Plenty of chatter about SubOccs vs streams vs trade. AERE may be jumping into the mix now as well.PuckChaser said:Sure as hell hope we don't create another Officer trade to handle it.
As for pay, Cyber Op is Spec 1, which will outperform most Officer pay scales for quite a few years before promotion to Captain.
My personal opinion is that the biggest difficulty the CAF will have in developing highly technical and specialized Offensive/Defensive capabilities in the Cyber Domain will be the "prick measuring contest" that's an ingrained trait in classical military culture.
Small Wars Journal put out a great article a few years ago called "Leadership of Cyber Warriors: Enduring Principles and New Directions".
If the military wants to try and steal some of the brain power from these places:
Than the paradigm better be changed because the top IT talent cares far less about PR's on the bench press and completing the Petawawa Ironman than they do about intellectual ability and critical thinking.
I think the article I alluded above provides a very good example of the difference between cyber warriors vice kinetic warriors: