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Re: Hand Grip Help
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2005, 21:42:29 »
is it just your forearm that gives you the strength to grip hard?

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Re: Hand Grip Help
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2005, 21:45:22 »
For the most part, yes.

Here is a link for some exercises you can do for your forearms, which will increase your grip strength.

http://www.exrx.net/Lists/ExList/ForeArmWt.html

Also, as ghostwalk said do chinups, those help a lot.

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« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2005, 03:57:59 »
man i am so pissed. my forearms like bigg and i failed  :crybaby: well thanks for the info

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Re: Hand Grip Help
« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2005, 14:38:44 »
Never knew Hand Grip was such a biggy...Sorry to hear about it man and thanks for the heads up...Considering m getting myself ready.

Edit:  Hah scuse me for being a nooby...What do they require you to do for hand grip?
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« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2005, 20:07:30 »
they make you squeeze a thing called "dynosomething." Anyways it looks like a "D" haha bad description. Yea it sucks. All my friends who dont even work out have a stronger grip  :crybaby:

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Re: Hand Grip Help
« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2005, 20:17:07 »
Maybe it's just technique. I'm not a body builder by any stretch of the imagination, but I have a stronger grip than most people. You need a total of 75 to pass, when I was 21, I could get 72 with my right hand and 68 with my left, much to the dismay of the 2 ex-Airborne guys that were on my BOTC. I think those guys almost hurt themselves trying to beat me.

The dynamometer can be adjusted to fit your hand. Adjust it so that your fingers are about an inch or so from your thumb/palm when you're holding it or whatever is comfortable. Just make sure it's not too big, it shouldn't feel like you're holding onto a pop can, more like holding a hockey stick. Then place the "trigger" part on the middle section of your fingers in between the two knuckles, know what I mean? Then just squeeze like a mofo.

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« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2005, 23:18:03 »
Just another question. Is there something wrong with my hand because my grip is so weak and I workout my forearm. I feel like the bones in my hand have to do with something.

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Re: Hand Grip Help
« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2005, 23:26:58 »
Go rock climbing if you can. I rock climb regularly (few times a month), am a skinny guy, but got 106kg on the hand grip. Even after only 1 week of rock climbing you'll notice a difference.

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Re: Hand Grip Help
« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2005, 23:32:40 »
Well youll have to wait six months for a new physical unless you want to pay the $32 for a new one.

Answer to your other question, have you ever had any problems with the bones in your hands?  This probably isnt the case, you just need to start working on the muscles that will help improve your gripstrength.  When I did my physical in May I got 43 on my right and 40 on my left, (pretty damn crappy), but when my physical expired i did a new one on the 5th and I got 57 on my right and 54 on my left after working on my forearm and grip strength.  You will see improvement if you work on it.
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Re: Hand Grip Help
« Reply #34 on: January 13, 2005, 11:35:15 »
go to fitness depot or some store like that, get the thermodyne balls( @12.50 ) each, and start squeezing, you will be really amazed on how fast the grip improves.  Not a word of a lie, but last friday, I did a 71 Right 68 left, and after a week I did the "dyno" and now have 73 Right and 70 left............might be because I was more rested, but I really think after a week of ......squeezing the balls...(lol, sounds wrong, but you get the idea).......Another idea is go and get those hand grip things at CND TIRE and squeeze them together so you can hang on to a loonie without it falling,  start at 10 secs and work your way up, got that idea from a rock climber friend( he can do it for 60 mins).

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« Reply #35 on: January 13, 2005, 11:49:55 »
tie a weight to a rope and a stick or something (not really a stick, something solid that you can hold , like a bar) and roll the weight up and down with the bar... it works out your forearms  pretty well =p

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Re: Hand Grip Help
« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2005, 16:42:25 »
It sounds like there is more of an underlying issue.....  You're probably going to have to wait a few month before you can take the test again right?  (nod your head)  In the meantime, get yourself a gym member, or if your school has a good weight room, use that.  If you don't and just pass the test next time, it may be a sign of these to come.  Train hard now, so that when you go to do your basic, you can rock and roll through it, instead of gasping for air after a good run, having you leg muscles just about to give up during a short ruck march, or having your upper body screaming after a PT session.  Wouldn't you want to cruise through the physical stuff instead of just barely getting buy and relying on buddy a little too much?  Just don't overtrain, don't do the same body part more than twice a week and cardio 3-5 days a week is good.  You may not see results right away, but give it a couple weeks, you will and others will notice... 
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Re: Hand Grip Help
« Reply #37 on: January 15, 2005, 15:34:08 »
Fill two litre pop bottles with sand, or water, and hold them infront of you. Keep your forearms straight and your arms pointed down. Do not let your arms bend a little bit, keep them straight.

Another good one that you can do anywhere is this, do it as you read this.

hold your hand in front of you
 squeeze it into a fist
now shoot out your fingers so your hand is open
now fist
open
fist
open


do that as fast as you can as hard as you can for as long as you can. After about five minutes you will find it difficult to get your hand open,

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« Reply #38 on: January 15, 2005, 15:47:49 »
Just another question. Is there something wrong with my hand because my grip is so weak and I workout my forearm. I feel like the bones in my hand have to do with something.

You do forearm curls right? You need to get your thumb involved. I bootlegged this off the internet. I think I just googled grip strength.

"Power Rack Grabs:   Take the pin of your power rack, and set it to just below your hip.   Now, get a heavy duty bucket, and make the handle nice and thick, but make sure it still rotates.   Place the heel of your palm on the pin, and dangle the bucket from your fingers with some plates in it.   You will be able to develop some demented hand strength with this exercise.

Hangs:   Grab a chin up bar....and hang. : )

Pinch grips:   Take two plates, put them together so the smooth side is out, now grab it so your thumb is on one side, and your four fingers are on the other.   When you get up to two 25's, your getting strong.   When you get up to two 45's (long way off for most of us), you'll have vices instead of hands.

Lever lifts:   Take an object like an axe, and hold it either in front of you, or sticking behind you.   Now, lever it up and down.   The further a way the weight is from your hand, the harder the lift will be.   For the front lever lift, just try a baseball bat at first.   For the rear lift, try an axe holding it halfway.   When you get used to the movement, go heavier.   Your wrists are in a little bit of a delicate position with lever lifts, be careful.

Plate Curls:   This is one I never heard of until I read _Mastery of Hand Strength_, by John Brookfield.   Take some Olympic plates, grab them with a pinch grip (one in each hand), and curl them, it's that simple, in explanation at least.   Wait till you try this exercise, you'll be shocked at how hard this it is.

plate curls explained: According to grip expert John Brookfield this is the absolute best exercise for the wrists. What you do is pinch grip one plate and just curl it up*remember to keep your wrists tight, dont let them sag back* If you can curl a 25lb plate in this fashion you have pretty strong wrists"

All I do is I have been wrapping tape around my dumbell handles until they are about three inches in dia. Then just lift weights as per normal and your grip is trained incidentally. The farmers walk is good too, take a couple of big plates, or four and pinch them together, and walk around for half a minute. Maybe the reason I can almost do 70lbs with each hand is because I used to be a farmer.

Those Canadian Tire grippers might help you although they are a bit easy, if not, Ironmind has grippers that are unreasonably stiff.

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Re: Hand Grip Help
« Reply #39 on: January 17, 2005, 15:34:41 »
Hey, 

On the last course I was on, three of us failed the PT test becuase of the grip test.  We were all under 5'6" and the worst score in each event was 9.5 on the run, 45 push up and 50 sit ups, the remainder of the scores were equal or higher than those (all respectable).  I can do the least chin ups with 7.  We all failed.  Two of us climb and none of us are slackers in the gym.  In the end, we were all given passes (because the equipment was assumed to be broken), but most of use think that the machine was set to large for our collectively small hands, giving false readings.  Their was a post more earlier in the thread that mentioned how to adjust the grip test it sound very accurate.

On a side note, how many people feel the grip test is an accurate way of testing fitness, or could a better exercise replace the grip test?  Or who would just like to see chin ups come back?

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Re: Hand Grip Help
« Reply #40 on: January 17, 2005, 15:47:28 »
but most of use think that the machine was set to large for our collectively small hands, giving false readings.  

The Hand Grip Dynamometer is adjustable and every express test I've completed, I've been given the opportunity to adjust the grip size to fit my own hands.

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Re: Hand Grip Help
« Reply #41 on: January 18, 2005, 01:02:09 »
On a side note, how many people feel the grip test is an accurate way of testing fitness, or could a better exercise replace the grip test?   Or who would just like to see chin ups come back?

The grip strength measurement is intended to measure "the tip of the iceberg".
And, yes - it's entirely possible the device wasn't adjusted properly - mistakes happen.
Similarly, there are "issues" with pushup and chinups - similar to the debate on Olympic medals (i.e. as soon as "technique" or anything "judged" is involved ... it's not a score - it's an opinion ...).

The best advice has already been given:
1.  Don't just work on improving your score on the grip strength test - work on your upper body strength, and particularly your arms and ESPECIALLY your forearms.
2.  If it was good enough for Gordie Howe, then it's good enough for you (i.e. hockey is "War on Ice"!)

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Re: Hand Grip Help
« Reply #42 on: January 18, 2005, 01:23:22 »
The grip test is ludicrous as a gauge of fitness.  An old EME guy I knew couldn't run from his bay to the crapper without a smoke break in between, but he could squeeze the head off an anaconda...

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Re: Hand Grip Help
« Reply #43 on: January 18, 2005, 07:13:02 »
The grip test is ludicrous as a gauge of fitness ...

Ooops - thanks for the reminder!
The grip strength test is only a "litmus test" for a particular subset/aspect of muscular strength ... (i.e. to be viewed in concert with the remainder of the Expres test ...)
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Re: Hand Grip Help
« Reply #44 on: January 18, 2005, 10:24:24 »
On a side note, how many people feel the grip test is an accurate way of testing fitness, or could a better exercise replace the grip test?  Or who would just like to see chin ups come back?

by itself the grip test is nothing, but it is a measurable test.  In most cases( not Jazscam's) it would indicate a person that is doing some form of resistance training.  At civvie job we have a dyno and I asked a rather lazy s*(& if he try it, he failed really bad, this guy has to take the elevator to go one floor and cannot do 1 push-up, so in this case the test is accurate.  If Jazcam is a climber, I would say for sure that the dyno was set up incorrect.

As for chin's coming back, all you smaller guys love them, being bigger and struggling with them, I do em because I have to,  but I am glad they not in the test.   I think a better test would be a deadlift.  The reason:  It covers grip, leg and lower back strength............and being a bigger guy and doing 600lbs for sets I love em( but I am not biased at all).........

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Re: Hand Grip Help
« Reply #45 on: January 18, 2005, 23:14:47 »
Yea I took all my tests today and failed the PT only cause I couldn't meet the limit of hand grip...Pissed off...

Personally...though it doesn't really matter, they should find some other way to test that part of muscular strenth...Or many m just pissed cause I failed it :P

Takin test in about another month...So we'll see...

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Grip test
« Reply #46 on: January 25, 2005, 16:19:36 »
I'm not sure if this is the right forum for this but I was wondering if there was a way to improve my chances of doing well on the grip test.


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Re: Grip test
« Reply #47 on: January 25, 2005, 17:50:52 »
It seems, from other comments on other threads, that the best thing to do is right from the start, make sure you adjust the device for your hand.

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Re: Grip test
« Reply #48 on: January 25, 2005, 17:57:51 »
ok I will adjust it to my hand.


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Re: Grip test
« Reply #49 on: February 11, 2005, 16:33:30 »
hey guys I just thought of something. I don't even know the minimum requirements for the grip test the reason I thought of this is because we are doing grip tests in gym and I thought it would be a good opertunity to see if I will have problems on the test.


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