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Re: North Korea (Superthread)
« Reply #325 on: August 04, 2009, 17:32:00 »
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hM96sRn69bkN1XDLqb2_pkmFxqdgD99S8VAO0

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SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — North Korean leader Kim Jong Il has issued a "special pardon" to two American journalists convicted of sneaking into the country illegally, and he ordered them released during a visit by former U.S. President Bill Clinton, North Korean media reported Tuesday.

The release of Laura Ling and Euna Lee was a sign of North Korea's "humanitarian and peaceloving policy," the Korean Central News Agency reported.

Clinton, who arrived in North Korea earlier in the day on an unannounced visit, met with the reclusive and ailing Kim — his first meeting with a prominent Western figure since his reported stroke nearly a year ago.

North Korea accused Ling, 32, and Lee, 36, of sneaking into the country illegally in March and engaging in "hostile acts," and the nation's top court sentenced them in June to 12 years of hard labor.

I wonder what the DPRK propaganda machine will make of this?

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Re: North Korea (Superthread)
« Reply #326 on: August 04, 2009, 20:50:09 »
Just great, raise a little hell and you get a former POTUS with a somewhat "rock star" reputation come hair in place to your house to ask for a favor. You betta that the Obama White House gave tact approval to this, in spite of the"private" travel arrangements. NBC, repeated on Global calls it "a foreign policy coup for President Obama".

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Re: North Korea (Superthread)
« Reply #327 on: August 04, 2009, 22:49:52 »
Just great, raise a little hell and you get a former POTUS with a somewhat "rock star" reputation come hair in place to your house to ask for a favor. You betta that the Obama White House gave tact approval to this, in spite of the"private" travel arrangements. NBC, repeated on Global calls it "a foreign policy coup for President Obama".

Give me a break. What's next?

Jimmy Carter did something similar back in '94, though that was to prevent nuclear war (if I remember.) I remember it from a documentary, but this page seems to be a good overview: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1316/is_n12_v29/ai_20089207/

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Re: North Korea (Superthread)
« Reply #328 on: August 05, 2009, 11:13:58 »


In this photo released by Korean Central News Agency via Korea News Service in Tokyo, former U.S. President Bill Clinton, right, meets with North Korean Leader Kim Jong Il, left, front, in Pyonggyang, North Korea,Tuesday, Aug. 4, 2009. At Clinton's right is former White House chief of staff John Podesta, others are unidentified. Clinton met Tuesday with North Korean leader Kim Jong Il on the first day of a surprise visit to Pyongyang, holding 'exhaustive' talks that covered a wide range of topics, state-run media said. (AP Photo/Korean Central News Agency via Korea News Service) JAPAN OUT



Former U.S. president Bill Clinton (seated L) and North Korea's leader Kim Jong-il (seated R) pose for a picture in Pyongyang in this photo released by North Korean official news agency KCNA August 4, 2009. REUTERS/KCNA



U.S. journalists Laura Ling (L) and Euna Lee (2nd R) head to a chartered plane at an airport in Pyongyang August 5, 2009. REUTERS/Kyodo



A photo released by North Korea's official Korean Central News Agency shows former US President Bill Clinton greeting two US journalists Laura Ling (in green) and Euna Lee (red) after winning their release from the communist country as they leave Pyongyang airport to the US in a chartered plane. Meanwhile, the hardline communist state savoured its highest-level American visit in almost a decade. (AFP/KCNA via KNS)



American journalists Laura Ling (top) and Euna Lee disembark from the plane that brought them back from North Korea in Burbank, California August 5, 2009. Former President Bill Clinton met with North Korean leader Kim Jong-il to release the two women after months of detention. REUTERS/Danny Moloshok (UNITED STATES POLITICS IMAGES OF THE DAY)



Freed U.S. journalist Euna Lee © is embraced by her husband Michael Saldate (top) and daughter Hana Saldate after arriving with Laura Ling and former President Bill Clinton in Burbank, California August 5, 2009. Ling, 32, and Lee, 36, American journalists freed by North Korea from months of detention, returned to U.S. soil early on Wednesday accompanied by Clinton, who secured their release in a meeting with the hermit state's leader Kim Jong-il. REUTERS/Danny Moloshok (UNITED STATES POLITICS MEDIA IMAGES OF THE DAY)



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In this image made from AP Television News, former Vice President Al Gore , center, watches as journalists Laura Ling, left and Euna Lee speak after arriving at the Bob Hope Airport in Burbank, Calif. early Wednesday, Aug. 5, 2009. Former President Bill Clinton says he's 'very happy' that the pair of American journalists have been freed from imprisonment in North Korea. (AP Photo/AP Television News)
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Re: North Korea (Superthread)
« Reply #329 on: August 05, 2009, 12:31:05 »
What did those women expect when they snuck into NORTH KOREA?

My god, I'm surprised they weren't shot on sight.

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Re: North Korea (Superthread)
« Reply #330 on: August 05, 2009, 12:43:06 »
What did those women expect when they snuck into NORTH KOREA?

My god, I'm surprised they weren't shot on sight.

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Re: North Korea (Superthread)
« Reply #331 on: August 05, 2009, 15:43:38 »
Good point. Maybe people will listen when we tell them that the Dragon and Bear aren't cute and cuddly as our left wingers make them out to be.

Actually, while you're right, I think I may have been a bit harsh with my comments. While sneaking into the DPRK is indeed a stupid idea, conflicting reports abound about where they were when captured.

Their South Korean guide says they were on the Chinese side (and North Korean Border Guards had to cross over to Chinese territory to arrest them,) while the North Koreans claim they were on the North Korean side.

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Re: North Korea (Superthread)
« Reply #332 on: August 08, 2009, 00:57:06 »



Were this not a fairly straight forward thread, there would be an obvious Clinton joke to go with this picture.... ;D
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Re: North Korea (Superthread)
« Reply #333 on: August 08, 2009, 17:24:43 »
Huffington Post, via the Associated Press: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/07/laura-lings-sister-report_0_n_253750.html

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LOS ANGELES -- Laura Ling's sister says the two American journalists briefly touched North Korean soil before they were captured and detained for months in that communist country.

"She said that it was maybe 30 seconds and then everything got chaotic. It's a very powerful story, and she does want to share it," Lisa Ling told CNN Thursday.

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Laura Ling told her family she was treated humanely, but meals were meager and her phone calls were monitored, Lisa Ling said.

"She had two guards in her room at all times, morning and night. And even though they couldn't speak to her, somehow they developed a strange sort of kinship, Lisa Ling said. "She had some really lovely things to say about the people who were watching over her."

The reporter passed her time in captivity reading, walking circles around her cell for exercise and planning when she would wash her hair, because water service was intermittent, Lisa Ling said.

At Laura Ling's house on a quiet residential street in the San Fernando Valley, a man who identified himself as her brother-in-law came to the door and said politely that she wasn't ready to speak about her ordeal yet.

Lisa Ling said her sister plans to write an editorial explaining what happened and how she was captured.

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Re: North Korea (Superthread)
« Reply #335 on: August 28, 2009, 23:06:13 »
A related update:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090829/ap_on_re_us/un_un_ship_seized

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By JOHN HEILPRIN, Associated Press Writer John Heilprin, Associated Press Writer
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UNITED NATIONS – The United Arab Emirates has seized a cargo ship bound for Iran with a cache of banned rocket-propelled grenades and other arms from North Korea, the first such seizure since sanctions against North Korea were ramped up, diplomats and officials told The Associated Press on Friday.

The seizure earlier this month was carried out in accordance with tough new U.N. Security Council sanctions meant to derail North Korea's nuclear weapons program, but which also ban the North's sale of any conventional arms.

Diplomats identified the vessel as a Bahamas-flagged cargo vessel, the ANL Australia. The diplomats and officials spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.

"We can confirm that the UAE detained a North Korean vessel containing illicit cargo," a Western diplomat told the AP.

Turkey's deputy U.N. ambassador, Fazli Corman, who chairs the Security Council's sanctions panel, also confirmed the incident without providing details and said council members are examining the seriousness of it.

The UAE, a hub for Iranian goods, seized the ship earlier in August. The ship is registered in the Bahamas, a common country of registry for vessels, but it wasn't immediately clear who owns it nor where the owner is based.

The Security Council's latest resolution came in the wake of North Korea's second nuclear test in May and firing of six short-range rockets.

The ship's seizure and reported violation of a U.N. arms embargo was reported by the UAE in a confidential letter two weeks ago to the council's sanctions committee for North Korea, which is comprised of diplomats from all 15 nations on the Security Council, according to diplomats and officials.


The Financial Times first reported the weapons' seizure Friday.

The Security Council imposed tough new sanctions on North Korea on June 12, strengthening an arms embargo and authorizing ship searches on the high seas to try to rein in its nuclear program after Pyongyang's second nuclear test on May 25, violating a council resolution adopted after its first nuclear blast in 2006.

The council also has ordered an asset freeze and travel ban on companies and individuals involved in the country's nuclear and weapons programs — and put five North Korean officials, four companies and a state agency on the sanctions list. Three other companies were put on the list after Pyongyang launched a rocket on April 5, a move that many saw as a cover for testing long-range missile technology.

The new sanctions resolution also calls on all nations to prevent financial institutions or individuals from providing financing for any activities related to North Korean programs to build nuclear, biological and chemical weapons and ballistic missiles.

Three sets of U.N. sanctions apply to Iran, seeking to halt its uranium enrichment. Iran denies accusations by the U.S. and Western allies that its nuclear program is for more than peaceful purposes.

The ship seizure comes at a delicate time, just as the North has been adopting a more conciliatory stance toward South Korea and the U.S., following months of defiant provocations.


Earlier this month, the North freed two American journalists and a South Korean worker after more than four months of detention and pledged to restart some joint projects.

The North also sent a delegation to Seoul to mourn the death of former South Korean President Kim Dae-jung.
   
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Re: North Korea (Superthread)
« Reply #336 on: September 26, 2009, 13:16:46 »
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By Jack Kim, Reuters September 26, 2009

SEOUL — Ninety-seven South Koreans crossed a heavily armed border on Saturday to meet family members in the communist North in fleeting reunions arranged by the rivals split by war and ideology more than half a century ago.

The two Koreas began reunions in 2000 for the hundreds of thousands of divided families, but the events have been on hold for about two years due to political tension, denying many Koreans their dying wish to see relatives they left behind.

Most of the hundreds of thousands of South Koreans looking for lost family members in the North are 70 or older, meaning time is running out.

The reunion at the North Korean resort of Mount Kumgang was an outpouring of sorrow, joy and relief as family members lost for more than half a century were reunited.

"Don't you have anything to say to me?" said Chung Dae-chun, who at 95 is the oldest person to be taking part in the three-day event, as he was reunited with his son, who is hearing impaired and appeared older than his trim and alert father.

Destitute North Korea, stung by U.N. sanctions triggered by nuclear and missile tests, has in recent months reached out to the South, once a major aid donor, proposing renewed business ties and resuming the emotionally charged reunions.

The 97 South Koreans are meeting 240 North Korean sons and daughters, and brothers and sisters in Mount Kumgang just miles from the border on the peninsula's east coast.

Ninety-nine North Koreans who sought relatives in the South will follow in another three days of reunions meeting 449 who will travel from the South.

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Re: North Korea (Superthread)
« Reply #337 on: September 30, 2009, 11:01:41 »
Further to my post above:

NKorean meets her 100-year-old mother
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SEOUL, South Korea - A North Korean woman wept as she embraced her 100-year-old South Korean mother for the first time since 1951 on Tuesday, during a fresh round of reunions of divided families - the latest sign of warming ties between the Koreas.

Amid the tears of joy, however, there was sadness: A 75-year-old South Korean who had been trying for nearly a decade to reunite with his family in North Korea threw himself in front of a train near Seoul because he was not among the hundreds selected for the reunions.

The six days of highly emotional reunions - the first in nearly two years - began Saturday at North Korea's Diamond Mountain. The first group of more than 120 South Koreans returned to Seoul on Monday after three days, and a second group of about 430 South Koreans went to the North on Tuesday.

South Korea's YTN television showed footage of 75-year-old Ri Hae Kyong, a North Korean, hugging her centenarian South Korean mother, Kim Yu-jung. The daughter, just 16 when she disappeared during the 1950-53 Korean War, used a handkerchief to wipe away her mother's tears.

"It's been 60 years, and I've been missing you even in my dreams," Ri told her mother and two sisters, the Yonhap news agency reported. "You are now 100 years old, and I thought I would never see you again."

North Korea agreed last month to allow the meetings and other reconciliation ties with South Korea as part of efforts to reach out to its wartime rival following more than a year of tensions, largely over the North's nuclear program. About 900 Koreans will be reunited during the two sessions, according to the organizer, South Korea's Red Cross.

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Re: North Korea (Superthread)
« Reply #338 on: September 30, 2009, 14:28:55 »
Relations would really warm up if they held these reunions on the south side of the DMZ. I fathom the return train would be a few passengers short.
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Re: North Korea (Superthread)
« Reply #339 on: October 05, 2009, 21:33:30 »
For now he's playing nice, possibly due to Beijing's prodding. But the cycle from talks to missile launches back to talks will start again eventually.  ::)

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NKorea's Kim willing to return to nuclear talks: state media
North Korea is willing to return to six-party nuclear disarmament talks if separate talks planned with the United States make progress, the communist state's official media said.

It said leader Kim Jong-Il gave the commitment at a meeting late Monday in Pyongyang with visiting Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao.

"The hostile relations between the DPRK (North Korea) and the United States should be converted into peaceful ties through the bilateral talks without fail," the Korean Central News Agency quoted Kim as saying.

"We expressed our readiness to hold multilateral talks, depending on the outcome of the DPRK-US talks. The six-party talks are also included in the multilateral talks."

Kim said the North's efforts to denuclearise the Korean peninsula remain unchanged.

China's official Xinhua news agency carried a similar report, saying the two leaders reached "vital consensus" on the issue.


The North quit the six-nation forum in April after the United Nations condemned its long-range rocket launch. It vowed to restart its programme to make atomic bombs.

In May the North staged its second nuclear test, incurring tougher UN sanctions supported even by its close ally China. The United States has been leading a drive to enforce the measures.

The North has been pressing for bilateral talks with the United States, which says such talks are possible only if the goal is to restart the six-party forum.

Washington has been awaiting the outcome of Wen's visit before deciding whether to accept a reported invitation to send Stephen Bosworth, special representative for North Korea policy, to Pyongyang.

Wen's high-profile three-day visit ending later Tuesday was officially described as a goodwill trip to attend celebrations marking the 60th anniversary of Korea diplomatic relations.

But efforts to bring the North back to the six-nation talks were high on the agenda.

The forum which was formed in 2003 also groups South Korea, the United States, Russia and Japan. It reached a deal in 2007 under which the North shut down its plutonium-producing plant at Yongbyon.

In Wen's talks Sunday with Premier Kim Yong-Il and other senior officials, the North had expressed willingness to achieve denuclearisation through "bilateral and multilateral dialogues."

The North, however, blamed the United States for the nuclear standoff and linked denuclearisation of the Korean peninsula to the pace of global atomic disarmament efforts.

Pyongyang has lately been stressing its claim that it needs atomic weapons as a shield against US hostility. It also seeks formal recognition as a nuclear-armed state, something Washington and Seoul have adamantly rejected.

China is isolated North Korea's biggest trade partner and energy supplier.

In a sign of the importance which Pyongyang places on the relationship, Kim Jong-Il personally hosted an elaborate red-carpet airport welcome for Wen on Sunday and greeted him with a hug.

On Monday the two sides had hailed their friendship without mentioning nuclear disputes.

"History has proven that developing China-North Korea relations is in line with the fundamental interests and common aspirations of the two peoples and conducive to safeguarding regional peace and stability," said a Chinese foreign ministry statement, quoting Chinese President Hu Jintao and Wen.


"We are willing to work together with North Korea to... constantly push forward friendly and cooperative relations."

In the same statement Kim was quoted as calling the bilateral relationship "a common treasure."

Wen Monday toured a cemetery for Chinese soldiers who died fighting for the North in the 1950-1953 war. Among those buried there is Mao Anying, son of the late Chinese leader Mao Zedong.
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Re: North Korea (Superthread)
« Reply #340 on: October 06, 2009, 20:44:42 »
Maybe NK is running out of food, The Dear Leader playing brinkmanship not only with the region but his own people. Push till he can't push no mo'
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Re: North Korea (Superthread)
« Reply #341 on: October 06, 2009, 21:51:05 »
The Chinese will feed the North Koreans. Simple humanity will not allow the Chinese to stand idly by while famine strikes. But the Chinese will not extract any public quid pro quo; there is nothing for China in helping America to solve its North Korean problem.

But one characteristic of Chinese policy is that the biggest, most momentous events are deadly dull, barely commented upon and accomplished with minimum fanfare. The Chinese are not like Americans. One needs to look behind the hoopla to see what is really happening.
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Re: North Korea (Superthread)
« Reply #342 on: October 08, 2009, 21:27:10 »
Yikes!  :o

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/091008/world/china_nkorea_military_accident

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TOKYO (AFP) - China has detected deadly nerve gas at its border with North Korea and suspects an accidental release inside the secretive state, a Japanese news report said Friday.
 
The Chinese military is strengthening its surveillance activities after detecting the highly virulent sarin gas in November last year and in February in Liaoning province, the Asahi Shimbun newspaper reported, citing anonymous sources from the Chinese military.



Sarin gas, which was developed in Germany before World War I, was used in the deadly 1995 nerve gas attack on the Tokyo subway by a doomsday cult.


The Chinese special operations forces found 0.015-0.03 microgrammes of the gas per cubic metre when they were conducting regular surveys while there were winds from the direction of North Korea, the report said.


China suspects that there were some experiments or accidents in its neighbouring country, it said.

 
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Re: North Korea (Superthread)
« Reply #343 on: October 12, 2009, 11:21:05 »
Again? This is getting old and tiresome.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/091012/world/international_us_korea_north_missile

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North Korea fires missiles and declares "no sail" zone


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SEOUL (Reuters) - North Korea has fired five short-range missiles off its east coast and declared a "no sail" zone in the area from October 10-20, South Korea's Yonhap news agency quoted a government source as saying on Monday.
South Korean government officials were not immediately available for comment.


The latest launches, the first in about three months, come as Pyongyang has said it is ready to return to international talks on its nuclear weapons programme, though it has insisted it holds talks first with the United States.


It was not clear whether these were routine military exercises.


But they coincided with local media reports that the United States is planning to send its aircraft carrier USS George Washington to the South Korean port of Busan on Tuesday.


The reclusive North has hundreds of short-range range missiles, with the ability to strike the South Korean capital Seoul and its sprawling urban surroundings which are home to around 25 million people.


A nuclear test in May and a spate of missile tests around the same time triggered a tightening of sanctions against the North, whose desperate economic straits some analysts have said are partly behind its recent attempts to get on better terms with the outside world.


A U.N. resolution bans North Korea from launching ballistic missiles, but there are no international agreements that bar it from test-launching short-range missiles.


(Reporting by Jack Kim and Yoo Choonsik, writing by Jonathan Thatcher; Editing by Jeremy Laurence)
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Re: North Korea (Superthread)
« Reply #344 on: October 12, 2009, 11:34:49 »
Maybe the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize Laureate can do something about this?

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(I almost said that with a straight face) ;D
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Re: North Korea (Superthread)
« Reply #345 on: October 25, 2009, 00:04:12 »
We'll see if anything worthwhile comes out of this summit.

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SEOUL (AP) – A summit between the two Koreas should help resolve the dispute over North Korea's nuclear programs, a South Korea official said yesterday, as a negotiator for the North arrived in the US in likely pursuit of bilateral talks with Washington.

North Korea's No. 2 nuclear negotiator, Ri Gun, met on yesterday in New York with the chief US nuclear negotiator Sung Kim, a State Department spokesman said.

"Ambassador Ri Gun has traveled to the US on the invitation of US private organizations," State Department spokesman Noel Clay said in a statement. "During his visit, Ambassador Sung Kim took the opportunity to meet with him in New York on October 24 to convey our position on denuclearization and the six-party talks."

The US says it is willing to have direct talks with the North if it leads to resumption of six-party talks aimed at halting North Korea's nuclear weapons programs that also include South Korea, China, Russia and Japan.

North Korea and the United States do not have diplomatic relations. Ri was given permission to visit the US for unofficial meetings that include the Northeast Asia Cooperation Dialogue, a forum sponsored by the University of California-San Diego.

Clay said that Kim and principal deputy assistant secretary of defense, Derek J. Mitchell, would participate in the San Diego forum which begins on Sunday. The sessions will also include government officials and scholars from China, Russia, Japan and South Korea.

Clay said the US level of participation in the forum "is the same as previous years."

The North's reported push for a summit with the South and talks with Washington is part of a series of conciliatory moves by the regime in recent months after escalating tensions with nuclear and missile tests.

Analysts have said the moves show North Korea feels the pain of UN sanctions following its May nuclear test.

South Korea's largest television network KBS reported Thursday night that a senior South Korean official met with the North's spy chief, Kim Yang Gon, in Singapore last week and talked about a possible meeting between North Korean leader Kim Jong Il and South Korean President Lee Myung-bak.

North Korea first asked for the meeting, but the talks ended without agreement as the South demanded that the reclusive Kim visit the South, and the North balked at the demand citing security concerns, the report said. It cited an unidentified South Korean official.

Officials, including the South's Unification Minister Hyun In-taek, declined to confirm the reports. But Hyun said Friday that progress in international efforts to rid North Korea of its nuclear weapons programs is key to a summit with the North.

"Our government's position remains unchanged that we would not hold a meeting for meeting's sake," Lee Dong-kwan, senior presidential secretary for public relations, said yesterday in comments posted on South Korea's presidential Web site.

He said a summit "should be helpful to progress in the resolution of North Korea's nuclear issue," noting there won't be any behind-the-scenes negotiations or contract with North Korea over a summit.

North Korea's Kim has held summits with the South twice: the first in 2000 with the South's then-President Kim Dae-jung and the other in 2007 with then-President Roh Moo-hyun.

Relations between the two Koreas frayed badly after the more conservative Lee took office early last year. But Lee has said he is willing to meet with Kim Jong Il at any time, but that any such summit should tackle the North Korean nuclear issue.

North Korea pulled out of the six-party disarmament talks in April, but Kim Jong Il said earlier this month that the North could rejoin them depending on progress in its possible one-on-one negotiations with the US

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Re: North Korea (Superthread)
« Reply #346 on: October 28, 2009, 11:18:14 »
Apropos of nothing very much, except North Korea's incredible military power:


North Korean Women practice their goose step.


I don't know how we plan to beat that!


Maybe we'll have to count on the Chinese who can counter step with this:



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Re: North Korea (Superthread)
« Reply #347 on: October 28, 2009, 11:33:16 »
As those two commie states focus on "pretty women marching", as an officer in The RCR, it almost pains me to say that marching will not win wars.

I say that we adopt the method embodied in this photo:

Pretty is nice, but we mix it with lethal effect

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Re: North Korea (Superthread)
« Reply #348 on: October 28, 2009, 12:03:31 »
Let us not forget the USMC:
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Re: North Korea (Superthread)
« Reply #349 on: October 28, 2009, 12:38:19 »
Yes, but <drifting further off this serious topic> the female goose stepping is neat ...




... especially in 'scarlets' ...




... but, anyway, she looks tough enough:

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