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Re: RCMP Info, discussion
« Reply #250 on: June 09, 2007, 20:15:53 »
God luck Fry, maybe I'll see you Depot  8)
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Re: RCMP Info, discussion
« Reply #251 on: June 09, 2007, 20:23:09 »
Home depot?  :dontpanic:
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Re: RCMP Info, discussion
« Reply #252 on: June 09, 2007, 20:24:33 »
Well that depends are you gonna come to Vancouver recently? i need some parts, maybe you can help me carry em :D
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Re: RCMP Info, discussion
« Reply #253 on: June 12, 2007, 00:20:05 »
FRY-

Don't be disillusioned, it took me 6 years and three exam sessions to get in. It may also be that you are applying from a smaller Division and Division recruiting levels usually mirror Division strength.

I know lot's of members who were deferred for a year, it will not be a strike against you should you reattempt the exam, instead it will be viewed as a measure of your motivation, maturity and tenacity! If you don't want to roll the dice again, come out to BC and apply here. The word is that they send 10 cadets from BC to each Troop in training (That has been quite accurate from my own experience back in 99).

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Re: RCMP Info, discussion
« Reply #254 on: June 12, 2007, 07:23:20 »
got the call, not for RCMP but from the career shop. Loadmaster Training, think I'll jump at it and see some more of the world first.

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Re: RCMP Info, discussion
« Reply #255 on: June 12, 2007, 11:54:44 »
Noneck,


Unfortunately, I don't have 6 years to wait around... or any years to wait around really. I need to do something with my life. I've always wanted both policing and the CF, and if later on down the road I want to persue policing again, I'll try a muni force or somewhere that doesn't require you sit around for years "incase" you might get picked.
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Re: RCMP Info, discussion
« Reply #256 on: June 12, 2007, 12:04:58 »
Come to BC, and especially Vancouver to join THe Greater Vancouver Transport Authority Police Service. They are now a VERY good way to go :)
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Re: RCMP Info, discussion
« Reply #257 on: June 18, 2007, 06:44:40 »
Hello all,

I was so happy to find this forum during my searches online about the RCMP recruitment process, as I am currently quite deep in the process myself. I actually just finished my polygraph examination yesterday afternoon, and I think it went relitivly well. It is so nice to have a forum like this, since it has been my experience that because of the confidentiality issues associated with much of the process it can leave an applicant feeling quite alone during what we all know is a very long and involved journey.

Personally I have to say that contrary to what many on this site have experienced during their recruitment process mine has been very quick and efficiant. Frankly when all is said and done, no matter what the result, I have been very impressed with the way that the RCMP has handled my file. I wrote my RPAT on Feburary 26th, 2007 and I am already passed the polygraph phase, which is my opinion is an excellent recruitment speed for a career of this nature. As for the rest, I can only hope that it continues to go as smoothly.

One concern I do have about my personal situation, which is something I will address here since I see there are some actual RCMP members on this forum, deals with my polygraph examination yesterday. I was honest and straight forward, which is something I definatly recomend to those not yet at this stage as I found that these men who administer these tests are wizards! But there were some things in my past that I had to own up to that I am very ashamed of, and since I know that there is a risk of legal action as a result of information obtained from these examinations I am wondering what the chances are of this applying to my case? Specifically I had to own up to a theft that I committed just under 5 years ago, where the value of the item was just over $100. Not a big deal in terms of crime I know, but still a theft none the less and one that I am very ashamed to admit to. Now wether or not this will affect my recruitment I do not know, I hope not, but if this mistake costs my a chance for a career with the RCMP than that is my fault and although I will regret it for the rest of my life I know that it was my choice at the time and I am willing to accept that perhaps that choice cost me this career choice.

So basically my question is, if I am not to proceed through the process because of this, what does everyone think the chances are that this matter (the theft) would be forwarded on for as criminal matter for investigation? I know that a theft under $5000 can be either indictable or a summary offence, and maybe I am making a big worry out of nothing, but it is still bothing me.

Also I was curious about those who have already done the polygraph, how long it took you all to get word on your results?

Thanks.

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Re: RCMP Info, discussion
« Reply #258 on: June 18, 2007, 09:54:30 »
Hello all,
I was so happy to find this forum during my searches online about the RCMP recruitment process, as I am currently quite deep in the process myself.

Find?? You've been banned at LEAST 3 times now.......putz. Good thing you were not hooked up to the polygraph when you typed this. ::)
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Re: RCMP Info, discussion
« Reply #259 on: June 26, 2007, 14:14:55 »
When it comes time to do the polygraph examination, how far back do you go in your life. If i stole something when i was 7 years old or punched a kid on my street do it tell all that stuff as well or is that just kids being young and not knowing any better. I  mean if you were a hyper kid you could be there all day writing stuff down, as well kids are kids and dont know any better untill they start to grow up. Im just wondering where you draw the line.

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Re: RCMP Info, discussion
« Reply #260 on: June 26, 2007, 15:13:56 »
It's best if you ask your recruiting cell at your local Division. They are really helpful!
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Re: RCMP Info, discussion
« Reply #261 on: July 08, 2007, 02:09:35 »
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Re: RCMP Info, discussion
« Reply #262 on: July 08, 2007, 02:58:56 »
What Div are you from Cadet9999?
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Re: RCMP Info, discussion
« Reply #263 on: July 08, 2007, 05:51:09 »
Hi, sorry if I have a terrible accent i'm french (it's obvious)

One year ago I was starting to read this forum but without any comment. By the way I have to say you help me take my final decision and I start the recruiting proccess :O) anyway I just found something really cool at the RCMP website, A complete
diary wrote by a cadet in 2005. I think it's important to know if you are almost ready to embrass the RCMP carrer. I learn a lot about the training proccess and everything about the life style at the depot. I dont know I long this diary is available but let me tell you I was really surprize to find all this information.

Last thing I am not a specialist in the recruiting process but when I read comment saying I am sure to pass I only have a little thing nothing really important I stole a thing last month. Please respect the RCMP stay at home.
Anyway in this post I prouve one thing I am FRENCH. But I move in British Columbia last year. So I am a french but really far far away :o)

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Re: RCMP Info, discussion
« Reply #264 on: July 08, 2007, 17:30:29 »
This has been mentioned before, if you look on the Blueline.ca forums there is an entire thread for LEO applicants. All the questions and more have been answered on that thread.

The recruiting process for most major PD's is constantly evolving, your best bet is to post on that site, because it is updated by those in the recruiting process at the moment. Most of us on this thread can comment about what it was like when we went through ( For me 8 years ago) things have changed in a big way since then.

One rumour I have heard a number of times in the last month, is that the RCMP is looking to a return to paying recruits going through training.

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Re: RCMP Info, discussion
« Reply #265 on: July 09, 2007, 00:27:33 »
Find?? You've been banned at LEAST 3 times now.......putz. Good thing you were not hooked up to the polygraph when you typed this. ::)
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Re: RCMP Info, discussion
« Reply #266 on: July 09, 2007, 10:45:55 »
One rumour I have heard a number of times in the last month, is that the RCMP is looking to a return to paying recruits going through training.

It's interesting to hear that they did in the past; I wonder how they came to stop doing it?  It was a surprise to me to hear that I could join the Coast Guard and be paid (not much, but something at least) for my time at the Coast Guard College and have that time count towards my pension -- probably the cheapest pensionable time to be had anywhere -- while a friend who joined the Mounties wouldn't even be considered an employee until he had finished his course.  There is an eight- or nine-fold difference in the length of the training programmes, but it was still surprising that two federal departments could be so different in this way.

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Re: RCMP Info, discussion
« Reply #267 on: July 12, 2007, 09:26:23 »
Well if truth be told, they were still paying recruits. However the recruits didn't actually see it as it was taken off at source for R&Q, medical and insurance ect. That's why we get a dirty big unexpected T4 for training after you graduate.

Paying Cadets a stipend is a good move, the experienced recruits with life experience, come with debts and we need to recognize this.

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Re: RCMP Info, discussion
« Reply #268 on: July 12, 2007, 10:55:53 »
Exactly. Not everyone has or is in the position to have 6 months worth of pay saved up to pay bills, etc.
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Re: RCMP Info, discussion
« Reply #269 on: July 13, 2007, 10:39:46 »
Exactly. Not everyone has or is in the position to have 6 months worth of pay saved up to pay bills, etc.

6 (or 7 just to be sure) months of bills + the recommended $5000 spending money. In my case it's almost $10,000 I have to put aside to do this.

Seriously, if they want folks with life experience and professional/educational experience they need to start offering incentives just like the military does.

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Re: RCMP Info, discussion
« Reply #270 on: July 13, 2007, 15:14:20 »
Yep. You also gotta wait to get on the next pay cycle post depot... so I guess 7 months would be more accurate. I know many folks who would make fine mounties, that never considered the RCMP simply because of that. 6-7 months of zero income is tough, especially for those with childen and or a significant other at home. There are other options in the same or similar line of work which involve paid training. Less salary or more... training still paid for makes a huge difference.
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Re: RCMP Info, discussion
« Reply #271 on: July 14, 2007, 13:07:37 »
6 (or 7 just to be sure) months of bills + the recommended $5000 spending money. In my case it's almost $10,000 I have to put aside to do this.

Seriously, if they want folks with life experience and professional/educational experience they need to start offering incentives just like the military does.

From the cold, hard, financial angle, as long as they can get enough recruits with the current arrangement they'll probably carry on doing it.

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Re: RCMP Info, discussion
« Reply #272 on: July 15, 2007, 18:15:25 »
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"From the cold, hard, financial angle, as long as they can get enough recruits with the current arrangement they'll probably carry on doing it."

That's exactly why we are going to have to revert to paying cadets....we aren't getting enough in the door!
We are in active competition for the same warm body that every other PD is looking at! It's an applicants market and will be for the next 5-10 years, if not longer. Throw in a few variables such as polygraph, no pay at Depot, the length of time it takes to process a recruit(6 mos to 1.5 years)and last but not least ,our recent well publicized dirty laundry being aired world wide. It's going to be a lot harderjust to get people to come to the info sessions.

There has to be a particular reason why someone these days wants to join the Force, either to work in a specific section (ERT, National Security, UC or Drugs), wear the red suit or something else unique to the RCMP. If someone merely wants to be a cop, they will join the first organization that hires them and i can guarantee that won't be the Force.

It's going to be interesting next couple of years!

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Re: RCMP Info, discussion
« Reply #273 on: July 23, 2007, 03:32:05 »
I heard you guys were looking at being 1800 short in the next five years.  Is that an accurate number?
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Re: RCMP Info, discussion
« Reply #274 on: July 23, 2007, 12:19:14 »
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"I heard you guys were looking at being 1800 short in the next five years.  Is that an accurate number?"

I think we are that short right now, I know here in BC (E Div) we are at least 860 persons short. That was the official numbers being bandied around a few months back. So if the largest Division (E-Div) in the Force is 860 short out of a strength of about 6000, what's the rest of the country like?

There's a lot of factors that contribute to this shortfall, the greatest one being baby boomer retirements, the second being that we shut depot in the 90's and are having a hard time making up that shortfall. I personally believe that we need to entice newer experienced applicants with pay through training and possibly direct pension transfer to poach experienced police officers from other forces. This will allow us to make up our staffing shortfall asap. I have heard mention that as soon as this happens then a lot of other forces will start to feel the pinch, especially here in the LMD.

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