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Re: BOOT REGULATIONS: issued vs. non-issued vs. non-standard boots
« Reply #75 on: October 11, 2009, 14:27:06 »
That could not hurt.

I did the BFT a couple of weeks ago with Magnums and Sole Footbeds. No foot issues at all. I had convinced/helped convince several others to try Magnums as well, and a few more were going to buy some after the BFT.

I did my last BFT two years ago with Mk IIIs and Sole Footbeds, and had to tape my feet to avoid blisters. That was unusual as I never had blister problems before. These were my oldest/comfiest Mk IIIs though, and perhaps a little loose as a result. I bought my Magnums shortly afterwards, mainly because of the atrocious a** f**ce cold wet weather boots.

No sense using forty-year-old boot technology when competitive manufacturers have gone so far beyond that.


I used to get crazy blood blisters doing ruck marches, and shin splints. Switched to Original SWAT with Superfeet insoles and now I don't even get hotspots. I will never go back. Convinced a few others to try SWATs or Magnums and they are all converts. Some go through the process to get a chit so they don't have to buy them, others just pick up a pair on their own dime. No one seems to care either way, as long as they're black here or tan over there.
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Re: BOOT REGULATIONS: issued vs. non-issued vs. non-standard boots
« Reply #76 on: October 11, 2009, 14:54:55 »
I used to get crazy blood blisters doing ruck marches, and shin splints. Switched to Original SWAT with Superfeet insoles and now I don't even get hotspots. I will never go back. Convinced a few others to try SWATs or Magnums and they are all converts. Some go through the process to get a chit so they don't have to buy them, others just pick up a pair on their own dime. No one seems to care either way, as long as they're black here or tan over there.


My SWATS & Magnums are the best boots I've had on my feet since I joined in 68. A heck of a long way from hobnailed, cleated boots and putees I started with ;D
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Re: BOOT REGULATIONS: issued vs. non-issued vs. non-standard boots
« Reply #77 on: October 11, 2009, 15:43:41 »
My SWATS & Magnums are the best boots I've had on my feet since I joined in 68. A heck of a long way from hobnailed, cleated boots and putees I started with ;D


I found a pic!  ;D

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Re: BOOT REGULATIONS: issued vs. non-issued vs. non-standard boots
« Reply #78 on: October 11, 2009, 19:15:39 »
Magnums are great (for me) and I haven't worn a pair of issued boots since I got them. Honestly, with the insulated versions of Magnums out there now, who'd want to wear the WWB?
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Re: BOOT REGULATIONS: issued vs. non-issued vs. non-standard boots
« Reply #79 on: November 13, 2009, 08:30:54 »
Question for those who might know:

Is there a list of CF-approved LPO replacement boots for each kind of "issued" boot?  If so...where the hell do you find it?  If not...why not?

It sure would make it easier for all involved. 
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Re: BOOT REGULATIONS: issued vs. non-issued vs. non-standard boots
« Reply #80 on: November 14, 2009, 22:41:51 »
Question for those who might know:

Is there a list of CF-approved LPO replacement boots for each kind of "issued" boot?  If so...where the hell do you find it?  If not...why not?

It sure would make it easier for all involved.


No there isn't. That's because different boots (and there's hundreds of styles makes out there) work different for different people. And what is available locally differs across the nation.

The regulation is that you have to buy "black" boots. IE: if you buy black boots with orange threading ... I am not going to approve the re-imbursement for them (trust me ... some idiot actually did just that despite having signed the sheet as "read & understood" that he was required to purchase "all black" footwear that resembled military issued footwear. That's the regulation.

Also, if you are LPOing to replace "combat boots" - then the boots that you buy should be all-leather. No gortex crap that essentially makes them something other than a "combat boot". If your LPOing as a replacement for CWWBs ... then buying a gortex and thermal lined boot would be acceptable.
Instead of coming back to see us after 2 months and going "these boots are too hot to wear (cause it's summer and 35 degrees out), so you need to buy me 2 pairs of different ones now." That's been tried too.

You know, one thing I can't issue is common sense; the Supply system needs some of that issued too, but so do a WHOLE lot of soldiers. Seems to be a lot of high priced babysitting going on these days. I AM NOT these guys' momma ... I figure if they're old enough to be in the military they should be old enough to know better, sadly, that's not the case all the time. We can make lists for anything, but if troops just feel free to ignore paperwork they sign anyway (then fight with you for half an hour as to "why your ****ed up supply system" isn't willing to pay them for my black boots with orange threading) ... a "list" won't accomplish SFA - it's just a bit more handholding.

Just like the young troop living across the street from me ... fuzzy wolf blanket for a living room curtain with a couple of milk crates for furniture. With a computer sitting on a computer desk ... but a really hot new Porsche sitting in his driveway (where which I am sure his paycheck goes each month paying the insurance and gas on it).  ::)
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Re: BOOT REGULATIONS: issued vs. non-issued vs. non-standard boots
« Reply #81 on: November 15, 2009, 16:33:22 »
Just like the young troop living across the street from me ... fuzzy wolf blanket for a living room curtain with a couple of milk crates for furniture. With a computer sitting on a computer desk ... but a really hot new Porsche sitting in his driveway (where which I am sure his paycheck goes each month paying the insurance and gas on it).  ::)


See, what's the point of having a sweet-*** car to use trying to pick up women if you can't even bring them home without completely shattering their impression that you're rich? :D
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Re: BOOT REGULATIONS: issued vs. non-issued vs. non-standard boots
« Reply #82 on: November 15, 2009, 22:25:39 »
We all have been young once!

Remember that Jimmy Gilmer &  Fireballs LP you needed vern.That was 5 cent's...the whole weeks pay at that time.

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Re: BOOT REGULATIONS: issued vs. non-issued vs. non-standard boots
« Reply #83 on: November 15, 2009, 22:39:26 »
We all have been young once!

Remember that Jimmy Gilmer &  Fireballs LP you needed vern.That was 5 cent's...the whole weeks pay at that time.


Jeebus ... I had to utilize my googlefu ... I've never heard of these guys.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fireballs

1963!!??

My mother was 15 then! I wasn't even thought about until she was 20! Perhaps my mom remembers them though ... I'll ask her next time I'm talking to her!  ;D
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Re: BOOT REGULATIONS: issued vs. non-issued vs. non-standard boots
« Reply #84 on: November 15, 2009, 22:45:01 »
lol
Come on sugar shack CLASSIC!

Figured you needed some humour..your lettin the boots get yah down.

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Re: BOOT REGULATIONS: issued vs. non-issued vs. non-standard boots
« Reply #85 on: November 15, 2009, 23:23:45 »
lol
Come on sugar shack CLASSIC!

Figured you needed some humour..your lettin the boots get yah down.


I just thought you were calling me old.

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Re: BOOT REGULATIONS: issued vs. non-issued vs. non-standard boots
« Reply #86 on: November 16, 2009, 02:11:30 »
I picked up a set of Magnums back in March. Wasn't able to wear them until June due to my, ahem, chain of command (a single person that didn't like the thought of troops buying their own boots.) I tried to explain that I had been wearing them outside of work and they seemed to be helping my ankle recover from an injury suffered over a year before. After said member of my CoC left I asked my Pl Comd if he would mind if I wore them. he didn't give a rats a** about it. I have had 2 flare ups in my ankle since June.... one of them was due to a massive drop in temperature, and only lasted about 3 hours, and the other was after a run (which I despise to start with, due to the previous injury) and didn't last long at all. I love my Magnums, I liked the GP Boot, but loooove the Magnums.
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Re: BOOT REGULATIONS: issued vs. non-issued vs. non-standard boots
« Reply #87 on: November 16, 2009, 07:31:51 »
I like my Magnums (Stealth) as well but it sure doesn't take long for cracks to materialize in these. I had cracks develop after about 3 months wear, despite using polish to keep the leather supple. Turned in a pair that were all cracked along the width on top and the tread was barely scored.
Anyone else have this issue.?
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Re: BOOT REGULATIONS: issued vs. non-issued vs. non-standard boots
« Reply #88 on: November 20, 2009, 13:03:44 »
No sign of deterioration in my Magnums after over a year of regular use.

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Re: BOOT REGULATIONS: issued vs. non-issued vs. non-standard boots
« Reply #89 on: November 20, 2009, 15:07:05 »
I like my Magnums (Stealth) as well but it sure doesn't take long for cracks to materialize in these. I had cracks develop after about 3 months wear, despite using polish to keep the leather supple. Turned in a pair that were all cracked along the width on top and the tread was barely scored.
Anyone else have this issue.?


Polish may be your problem. The only pair of magnums I have ever messed up was by putting polish on it. I use boot paste with it now, and after  3 yrs I have had no problems with any of my other pairs of magnums. I own lots.
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