Originally posted by chk2fung:
I was wondering about the Canadian Forces pay scale. Not that it really bothere me, cause I think there‘s no better job then the CF. All I know about the pay scale is moving down and to the right is GOOD!!!
I was told pay depends on education adn time in. is this correct? I‘m not exactly sure how they fit you in each pay category and I‘m not talking about specialist stuff, like combat diving, jump pay, EOD etc. For example if you have a master‘s degree or a doctorate what category would you fit under. Similarly if you‘ve been in for 20 years and you‘re a Warrant what would yo be in the same pay scale as a Warrant that‘s been in for 25 years. If you hold a professional designation like a CA or P.Eng. do they consider that in your pay. For example lawyers, doctors, pilots get paid more. Lawyers, doctors, chaplains are commissioned captains. why is that? Engineers and medical officers get signing bonuses is this merely because there are a lack of them. Are there signing bonuses for NCM trades? [/qb]
That‘s correct, moving to the right and down is good. If you are an untrained recruit(ie. you aren‘t trained in your specific trade), you will start as a private. They make just over 2,000 a month(about 26,000 a year), before taxes and get a pay increase every year on the anniversary of their enlistment date. Then after 4 years(sometimes 3) you will be automatically be promoted to Corporal, which has a starting pay around 40,000 a year and a pay topping out at just under 48,000 a year. From there, you have to earn all your promotions from there. Every year you will be evaluated by your superiors and then from a pool of all the people in your trade, they will make a merit list. So when someone retires, the first person on the list will be promoted, when another person retires, the second person on the merit list will be promoted. You get the picture. Every year the merit list is redone to reflect the past year. Specialist pay is for some select trades(ie. Technicians) and they get a couple hundred extra a month just for being in the trade. On top of that the combat pay, jump pay, hazard pay, etc. is paid to all those who qualify.
If you have a Master‘s or Doctorate degree you would most likely go in as an Officer. Starting off as a 2Lt. then being automatically promoted to Lt. after a couple years and then Captain after that. Captain‘s make around 80,000 a year. Not bad. From there they can be promoted every few years to Maj., Lt-Col, Col, etc. just like NCM. Like NCM‘s, they are put to a merit board to decide who is most worthy of a promote.
Your pay isn‘t really dictated by the time you have in. You get paid based on your rank and time in at that rank. When you get promoted there are 3-4 pay increases that you get automatically each year. So a Warrant Officer, would get a pay increase of 100-200/month for the first 3-4 years he/she was at that rank and then after that their pay would stay the same until they were promoted again and the cycle would repeat itself. By the way, I‘m not sure how much the increases are or how much WO‘s make, but it‘s around the 100-200 range.
If you had a degree like P.Eng, you probably wouldn‘t get any extra pay to the best of my knowledge. You would be enlisted as an officer probably and make the same as most other officer at your rank. Lawyers, Pilots, and Doctors are a whole other ball of wax. They get extra pay and signing bonuses because the CF is desperate for them and wants to retain them once they get them. That‘s why they make so much money, the CF is trying to compete with civilian companies for doctors, lawyers, and pilots and if they knew they could get more in the civilian world, they would jump at the chance(money makes the world go ‘round!)
There are sometimes signing bonuses for NCM‘s. Depends on your training, the need for new recruits in the trade, etc. If they are low on people and you are trained, you will probably get some sort of signing bonus.