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Do you feel General Hillier should step down on his announced date of 1st July?

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« Last Edit: April 15, 2008, 11:05:09 by Strike »
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Re: CDS stepping down!
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2008, 11:04:49 »
Says July 1 he will step down
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Re: CDS stepping down!
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2008, 11:10:03 »
Damn!  We're screwed now.  Sorry to see him go.

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Re: CDS stepping down!
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2008, 11:15:53 »
Having watched various CDS' come and go over thirty years, I'm somewhat sorry that General Hillier will be "pulling the pin". His leadership and handling of the politicians (those politicians both in and out of uniform) was second to none. I sincerely hope that his successor is "cut from the same cloth".
I certianly hope the government does not appoint someone because its the other elements "turn", like was done in the 80's and 90's.The CF is not an organization that can be command by children who need a "turn". That got us in a great deal of trouble. The best person for the job should get it, not because its someones "turn".
Any bets on who's next.....LGen Leslie comes to mind......
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Re: CDS stepping down!
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2008, 11:18:13 »
 :'( Damn it! Huge shoes to fill and call me a pessamist but I think the replacement will have difficulties
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Re: CDS stepping down!
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2008, 11:19:44 »
No man or woman is bigger than the job they do.  I admit that his shoes will be impossible to fill.  I imagine that his successor would be better off if he brought his own shoes.
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Re: CDS stepping down!
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2008, 11:23:38 »
Hillier stepping down


Hillier stepping down as head of Canada's military
Last Updated: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 | 11:11 AM ET
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Gen. Rick Hillier, chief of Canada's defence staff, will step down July 1, CBC News has confirmed.

The native of Newfoundland and Labrador has been in the job since February 2005.

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Hillier stepping down as head of Canada's military
Last Updated: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 | 11:29 AM ET
Gen. Rick Hillier, chief of Canada's defence staff, will step down July 1, CBC News has confirmed.

The native of Newfoundland and Labrador has been in the job since February 2005. The role doesn't have a defined length, but the average tenure is three to five years.

Last October, it was reported that the Conservatives were seeking to push the outspoken senior military commander out of his job.

But Prime Minister Stephen Harper denied the report, praising Hillier as an outstanding soldier and saying there had been no discussion about the possibility of changing the chief of defence staff.

Hillier had also said he's not finished his work as defence chief.

"I love being a soldier," Hillier said in October. "I still have things to do here in the immediate future, and I intend to do them."

Hillier is viewed as highly popular among the rank-and-file of Canada's military. His own career has spanned three decades — he joined the army right after graduating from Memorial University.

Before being named chief of defence staff, he was the head of the army and also commanded the NATO-led multinational Afghanistan mission in 2004

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Re: CDS stepping down!
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2008, 11:25:23 »
No man or woman is bigger than the job they do.  I admit that his shoes will be impossible to fill.  I imagine that his successor would be better off if he brought his own shoes.


If no man or woman is bigger then the job they do then I guess there's alot to say about how they interpet their job. In my memory (which isn't what it use to be mind you) we have always had a CDS but never had one like Hillier!
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Re: CDS stepping down!
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2008, 11:30:59 »
Hillier to step down as top general: CTV


Hillier to step down as top general: CTV
Updated Tue. Apr. 15 2008 11:25 AM ET

CTV.ca News Staff

Gen. Rick Hillier, Canada's high-profile chief of defence staff, will be stepping down, CTV News has learned.

CTV"s Ottawa Bureau Chief Robert Fife told Canada AM on Tuesday that Hillier has reportedly decided that he wants to move on.

Fife said there is no policy disagreement or other troubles with the government.

CTV News reported in October 2007 that Hillier would be replaced when his three-year term expired in February.

Chiefs of defence staff normally serve a three-year term, but that isn't fixed. Defence commentators said at the time that they thought Hillier would welcome an extension or renewal.

The Liberal government of then-prime minister Paul Martin appointed Hillier as chief of defence staff in January 2005.

In his inaugural speech, Hillier called for more money for Canada's Armed Forces, after spending cutbacks as the federal government tried to bring chronic deficit spending under control in the 1990s.

Hillier also envisioned a new role for the Canadian military in the 21st century, a more nimble force capable of responding to the emerging threats of terrorism and natural disasters.

In addition to being a strategic thinker with field experience, Hillier is revered by the troops, particularly the army.

"I've been in Afghanistan twice with (Hillier), and it's just overwhelming to see how these young men and women admire this general," Fife said.

"We haven't seen a general like this, at least in my lifetime, who has inspired so much from his troops and is so popular with the Canadian public."

One reason for that is when Hillier is on a visit, he would rather talk to his soldiers than be seen with the prime minister or other top politicians, he said.

Under both the Liberals and Conservatives, the Armed Forces have seen an increase in its budget, so Hillier will leave a solid base for his successor, Fife said.  

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Re: CDS stepping down!
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2008, 11:31:28 »
If no man or woman is bigger then the job they do then I guess there's alot to say about how they interpet their job. In my memory (which isn't what it use to be mind you) we have always had a CDS but never had one like Hillier!

I agree.  Hence my point about the successor making their own path.
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Re: CDS stepping down!
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2008, 11:36:29 »
Now I guess the question for him would be, "What next?" Is he gonna pull a Ray Henault and stay with the CF for a few more years?
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Re: CDS stepping down!
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2008, 11:37:20 »
Last year, when all the HooRaa was going on about Hillier going to be fired, I believe someone predicted that it wouldn't happen until things had died down, probably in the range of June-July 08.

They were dead on.
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Re: CDS stepping down!
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2008, 11:37:41 »
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Re: CDS stepping down!
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2008, 11:42:30 »
Prediction:

Well now with the Americans announcing their move of troops into the south, and the French too ...

And with a minority government here in Canada ...

Who sees an announcement in the near future with "Canada's plans to move to strictly reconstruction efforts" besides me?? Just in time for an election.

Anyone?? Bueller??

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Re: CDS stepping down!
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2008, 11:46:34 »
A sad, sad day indeed. The man is tired, I think he deserves the order of Canada for what he did for our military, nothing short of spectacular. As for someone filling his shoes, he was one of a kind...
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