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When was the last time artillery was needed?
« on: November 03, 2004, 02:05:34 »
I can see the the use of infantry, armoured, and logistic support being used on peacekeeping missions which is the only thing the Canadian army seems to do, but when was the last time the artillery used their guns on a peacekeeping or peacemaking mission?

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Re: When was the last time artillery was needed?
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2004, 02:51:08 »
We used them extensively on Roto 0 Athena, both for the guns and UAV's. They were integral to the mission.
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Re: When was the last time artillery was needed?
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2004, 04:30:58 »
I am sure within the past 12 hrs there has been a few fire missions in Iraq, by Allied forces. If not the past 12 hrs, maybe 24.

Artillery is essential in todays modern military forces, and I am not going to get into a pisssing contest explaining it. There is more to artillery than just lobbing shells 11 km or more.

Like all branches of combat arms, each depends on the other to win the battle effectively.


The US are currently using a modified 105mm gun based on the UK and Aussie Hamel.


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Re: When was the last time artillery was needed?
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2004, 05:45:55 »
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Re: When was the last time artillery was needed?
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2004, 10:04:12 »
Sweet Goodness.

I see the mantra has worked.
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Hmm.. Let me see if this works.

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Re: When was the last time artillery was needed?
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2004, 11:08:27 »
I can see the the use of infantry, armoured, and logistic support being used on peacekeeping missions which is the only thing the Canadian army seems to do, but when was the last time the artillery used their guns on a peacekeeping or peacemaking mission?


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Re: When was the last time artillery was needed?
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2004, 13:46:52 »
i can personally tell you that the guns were used on op Athena roto 0 . we fired to the best of my knowledge at least 2 maybe 3 live mission's this doesn't include the ranges either. the most common use the artillery have overseas is foo/fac party's.

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Re: When was the last time artillery was needed?
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2004, 16:11:02 »
Guns were also deployed to Bosnia on Roto 6 (Mar-Sept 2000).

What a moronic question.....

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Re: When was the last time artillery was needed?
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2004, 16:16:03 »
I've heard a lot of air force guys say how with todays modern technology and bombing ability and guidance and what have you, that artillery is becoming obsolete. I can tell you that the 1RCHA doesn't quite agree.

I think that with the advancements however, there is less need for artillery, but it has things that aircraft don't have.. It can be deployed so many places, in almost any location, can provide fire in some places aircraft can't and has very good mobility and deployment speed and you can't always depend on aircraft to soften up targets for the infantry... well you know really, it comes down to that saying which goes something like "you can use planes to bomb a location but you need soldiers on the ground to hold it" and I think that holds true with artillery as well. Diminished it's need may be but obsolete? I don't think so..
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Re: When was the last time artillery was needed?
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2004, 16:19:20 »
You forgot the biggest advantage we have over aircraft,.....we fly in any weather.
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Re: When was the last time artillery was needed?
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2004, 16:45:08 »
here Bograt, feel free to withdraw a sum of 19 Billion dollars from Accnt# 007.... and while you are at it......


Artillery... as I learnt the hard way(this last weekend on BMQ) the motto on their capbadge stands for "The Right and Glorious Lead the Way" at least, that is what I remember.... either way, artillery is a wonderful thing, even though you can't appreciate it until you need it, when you need it then you can really appreciate it. It enables you to 'soften up' targets before an attack, it enables you to hit the enemy behind their lines(HQ etc etc..) it enables you to disrupt their flow of re-inforcements, it enables you to fire over hills so that they cannot mass a counter-attack on the other side.. all of these are in essence free hits, we do not directly risk any life during these ops because in a perfect world the enemy can't shoot back...
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Re: When was the last time artillery was needed?
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2004, 16:51:17 »
Not again....

for the last time, those that ignor the aArtillery, do so at their own peril.

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Re: When was the last time artillery was needed?
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2004, 17:43:39 »
You forgot the biggest advantage we have over aircraft,.....we fly in any weather.

Yeah, and it can't be shot down (as far as I know).

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Re: When was the last time artillery was needed?
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2004, 18:38:19 »
Hey I know I'm just a dumb ex grunt, but shouldn't the question really be;

"When is the next time artillery will be needed?" 
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Re: When was the last time artillery was needed?
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2004, 18:44:39 »
I guess the saying "The only dumb question, is the one left unasked" went right out the window in this thread. God forbid that some guy, who doesn't know anything about what is used in a modern battlefield try to further his education just a little bit, by asking a question.