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Infantry MOC Training (Res)
« on: February 25, 2003, 12:58:00 »
Michael O‘Leary had very helpful lists of what BMQ and SQ training consisted of.

What PO‘s/Edo‘s are included in the Infantry MOC?

When do I get to replace the cornflake with the infantry badge, after BMQ or after SQ?

Since SQ deals with section attacks/defence, I am assuming the infantry deals with platoon attacks/defence.  But there has to be more to it than that to fill 4 weeks.

Thanks.
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Re: Infantry MOC Training (Res)
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2003, 16:50:00 »
It probably differs from Regiment to Regiment, but I got my Reg Cap Brass after my BMQ. Some units don‘t give this to you untill you are Trades (Ql3/PCF-A) Trained.

As far as I know (and there is a lot of controversy over the right answer), BIQ deals with more detailed infantry stuff, and higher level (ie: platoon) stuff. Also included is M203 and 60MM Mortar training.

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Re: Infantry MOC Training (Res)
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2003, 18:56:00 »
I believe this is only the first or second summer they are running this new 3-course recruit system, and a lot of instrutors aren‘t able to answer questions like this for us on our BMQ right now.  Mostly they start of saying, "Well when I did it, it was called QL2/QL3...etc."

Thanks for the input, I guess I‘ll find out soon enough!
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Re: Infantry MOC Training (Res)
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2003, 21:22:00 »
From what I remember
-60mm mortar (handrole)
-M203
-AFV recognition
-lots of lectures on offensive ops and other tactics
-platoon attacks
-raid or an ambush

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Re: Infantry MOC Training (Res)
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2003, 12:38:00 »
Just remembered that you also do FIBUA and basic assault boats.

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Re: Infantry MOC Training (Res)
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2003, 16:16:00 »
I can‘t guarantee that the following is a complete listing, I have not yet found the time to search for and download the Course Training Plan (CTP) for the Basic Infantry Qualification (BIQ). The following is basically a partial a list of file names from a directory of BIQ training materials:

Basic Infantry Qualification

PO 101-M203

   101-01 Apply Security Measures for the M203A1
   101-02 Disassemble, Assemble, Testing, Maintenance of the M203A1
   101-03 Knowledge of Ammo and Safe Handling - M203A1
   101-03 Type of Ammunition - M203A1
   101-04 Test - M203A1
   101-04 Zeroing and Firing - M203A1
   101-05 Stoppages and Effective Actions - M023A1
   101-06 Adopt Appropriate Positions - M203A1

PO 102-60mm Mortar

   102-01 Characteristics, Assembly, Dissemble, Safety - 60 mm
   102-01 Safety precautions, description, stripping & assem60
   102-02 Identify and prepare ammunition for the 60mm
   102-02 Types and Care of Ammunition - 60 mm
   102-03 Adopt fire positions, handle the weapon safely and e
   102-03 Fire Positions and Drills - 60 mm
   102-04 Familiar with the firing techniques for the 60mm
   102-04 Firing Techniques - 60 mm

PO 104-Navigation

   104-01 Determine intervisibility from a map
   104-01- Intervisibility using a map
   104-02 Locate a position with a bearing
   104-02- Locate position using bearings
   104-03- Use of Military Symbols
   104-04- Traces and overlays

PO 106-Dismounted Inf Ops

   106-01 Describe dismounted infantry operations
   106-02 Describe the conduct of a hasty attack
   106-03 Participate in a hasty attack
   106-04 Participate in an attack on strong points
   106-04 Trench Clearing
   106-05A Act as a scout
   106-05A Prepared Ex - Choose a line of advance
   106-05B Prepared Ex -Approach by stealth
   106-05B Take part in an advance by stealth exercise
   106-06 Participate in clearing of woods
   106-06 Wood Clearing Operations
   106-07 Obstacle crossing and breaching
   106-08 Conduct breaching of obstacles
   106-09 Water Crossing Operations
   106-10 Fighting in a built-up area and participating in a h
   106-10 Fighting in Built-up Areas
   106-11 Describe other offensive operations

PO 107-Patrolling

   107-01 Describe the types of patrol and their tasks
   107-02 Conduct a Patrol
   107-02 Describe the battle procedure used for patrolling
   107-03 Patrol Movement Technique
   107-04 Occupation Reasons
   107-04 Take part in a reconnaissance patrol
   107-05 Take part in a standing patrol
   107-06 Take part in a fighting patrol
   107-07 Take part in a raid
   107-08 Take part in an ambush
   107-09- AFV AND AC IDENTIFICATION

PO 108-Defensive Operations

   108-01 Describe the fundamentals of defensive operations
   108-02 Describe the conduct of the main defensive battle
   108-03 Describe the use of anti-armour weapons
   108-04 Construct and maintain fire trenches
   108-05A Employ the VECTOR laser rangefinder
   108-05A Vector Binoculars
   108-05B AN-GVS-5A Laser Rangefinder
   108-05B Employ the AN-GVS-5A laser rangefinder
   108-06 Employ an M18A1 (U.S.) Claymore mine
   108-06 M18A1 - Claymore Mine
   108-06 Mine Claymore - A18A1
   108-07 Lay a protective minefield
   108-07 Minefields
   108-08 Preparing houses and buildings for the defence
   108-09 Participate in tank-hunting team operations
   108-09 Tank Hunting
   108-10 Demolition Guard
   108-10 Describe the command of a reserved demolitions guard
   108-11 Defensive - Withdrawal
   108-11 Take part in a withdrawal
   108-12 Delaying Operations
   108-12 Take part in delaying operations
   108-13 Describe the procedure for the relief of troops in combat
   108-13 Relief of Troops in Combat
   108-14 Clearance patrol sentry tasks
   108-14 Perform sentry and clearance patrol tasks
   108-15 Operate l AN-TAS 502 - NODLR

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Re: Infantry MOC Training (Res)
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2003, 18:48:00 »
Many thanks, Michael!  It looks very interesting!  Can‘t wait to play with the M203...
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Re: Infantry MOC Training (Res)
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2003, 08:35:00 »
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Re: Infantry MOC Training (Res)
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2003, 10:59:00 »
The siting and laying of protective minefields has always been one of the tasks for infantry. With the demise of the Pioneer Platoons, skills such as this become even more important.

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Re: Infantry MOC Training (Res)
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2003, 17:03:00 »
108-11 Defensive - Withdrawal
108-11 Take part in a withdrawal
108-12 Delaying Operations
108-12 Take part in delaying operations

Gah!!! Belt-fed, no stoppages!

Man, withdrawls suck.

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Re: Infantry MOC Training (Res)
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2003, 09:19:00 »
Whatever happened to the basic infantryman skills?

On my infantry course we had infantry platoon ranges, recce patrols, figthing patrols, advance to contact and the training that goes with it. But after 10 weeks I guarantee you we were very proficient with our task.

I‘ve worked on 3 infantry courses since 1995 and the candidates today barely do a day of A to C, a simple walkthrough talkthrough fighting patrol and perhaps one withdrawal. Althouth they learn the NODLER, M203, GPS and whatever else they‘ll forget to operate in 2 weeks.

I much prefer an infantry course that keeps it simple and the end result is a basic infantryman that can do an infantryman‘s job to perfection. Then once that is done and he‘s profficient with his duties you can oversaturate him with all that other stuff.

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Re: Infantry MOC Training (Res)
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2003, 12:11:00 »
^They are covered in SQ and BIQ courses.

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Re: Infantry MOC Training (Res)
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2003, 14:54:00 »
They are covered in the SQ and BIQ but barely. I worked on an infantry course just last summer and they did two half days of "A" to "C" and only a walkthrough talkthrough fighting patrol. That stuff is the bread and butter of the infantry. Once they‘ve mastered the basics then hit them with the M203s, the 60mm mortars and whatever else.

Back to basics!!!  :fifty:

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Re: Infantry MOC Training (Res)
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2003, 15:08:00 »
Hmm... I did a platoon fighting patrol on my BIQ.

Yes, I also wish there was more field stuff in the basics.

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Re: Infantry MOC Training (Res)
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2003, 13:10:00 »
Michael, have you had time to find the correct CTP since you posted the last one?  I am doing my Infantry course later this month at Meaford and curious to what exactly is on it.

Thanks for your time and effort!
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Re: Infantry MOC Training (Res)
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2003, 23:19:00 »
Just heard yesterday from my platoon commander that there will be no FIBUA on the Infantry MOC course which starts Monday at Meaford.

It has been replaced by assault boats.

Apparently, it is easier for FIBUA to be done at the unit level, and assault boats are not as handy or readily available so they‘ve decided to do them during DP 1 Inf.

On a side note, I think when I get my knee replacement surgery done -- because I know it‘s coming soon with those **** tread marks all over our training area at Meaford -- I will send the bits the surgeon takes out to the Base Commander in a small jar with a "thank you" note.

I am very close to having to discontinue due to a knee injury.

Being an MIR commando REALLY sucks.

I‘d rather have a healthy knee than get excused from marching/running/PT.
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Re: Infantry MOC Training (Res)
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2003, 11:44:00 »
FIBUA and assault boats were covered last year in BIQ.