Author Topic: Security Clearance - ERC - Enhanced Reliability Check (Read 90978 times)

mike · « **on:** March 24, 2004, 17:34:00 »

has anyone been through the process of having a enhanced reliability check on them?? myself, i have 3 assaults and went for my interview today. i am now told that i will have to wait 3 months for my fingerprints to come back, at that time my file will go in front of a review board where they will decide if i am trustworthy enough to be accepted into the military. i also have to provide them with all my prior court documents as well as probation reports.
has anyone been in my shoes?? what outcome should i expect? my interviewer told me the interview went very well and i was an above average applicant..........help please!!!!!

GrahamD · « **Reply #1 on:** March 24, 2004, 18:48:00 »

Well, I have been through this process also. I have talked about it in a few threads, I‘ll try and track them down and link to them later.

I can‘t really tell you what to expect in the long run.
I can tell you that they ultimately granted me Enhanced Reliability Status after they reviewed all my information.
However I‘m in the waiting process right now so I have no idea if they are going to give me a job offer or not.
I guess I‘ll have a better idea if I don‘t hear from them in the next 8 weeks or so.

mike · « **Reply #2 on:** March 24, 2004, 18:52:00 »

i appreciate the help from you and all others, they say not to expect anything to happen for 6 months. is your situation similar to mine by chance?

GrahamD · « **Reply #3 on:** March 24, 2004, 19:20:00 »

Well I originally applied about 2.5 years ago now.
I had a weapons restriction still in effect at the time so they closed my file.
I petitioned a judge to remove my weapons restiction, which he did, but when I took the legal documents to the CFRC they told me I had to wait for 6 months to reapply (because you need to be 6 months clear of legal obligations to the courts).

I was disapointed but I decided it was a good chance to work on my fitness.
The 6 months elapsed during a long weekend and I was really excited to reapply the following Tuesday.
However on the Sunday I broke my leg in a skydiving accident. It was a pretty serious break and required surgery to put in a bolt and reattach all my ligaments.
I was in a cast for about 4 months and had more surgery to remove the bolt.
I spent about 6 months after that in physio trying to condition my leg back to a degree where I could realistically cope with the rigors of life in the infantry.
It was a nice stroke of luck that my physio therapist was an ex medic from the CAF, and seeing him several times a week afforded me a lot of insight and motivation toward continuing to pursue this carrer choice.

Anyway, so when I finished with physio I started back into trying to condition myself to surpass the minimum requitements handily. Unfortunately my cardio fitness level is not where it was before the accident, but I passed that portion and did 34/40 on pushups/situps.

When I was ready to reapply finaly, They made me go for allergy testing because of a few bad bee stings I had as a kid (3 months for blood work) and when I got that squared away, that‘s when they sprung the Enhanced Reliability Status thing on me. It took me about 3 months to get that sorted out.
So finaly about 3 weeks ago now I went for my interview and handed in a medical document that I was still missing. They shipped my med file to Borden that day. I went for a second PT test because the first was outdated (6 months) about 2 weeks ago, and with that my file is totally up to date.

They said when the med file comes back (it should have by now) that they will send my complete file back to Borden and hopefully I‘ll hear something soon.
So I‘m hoping to something any day. They quoted me "within 8 weeks". If I don‘t hear something by then I should call in and see whats happening.
Although I have a feeling that if don‘t hear something in that time frame that its going to be bad news when I call in.

Thats my situation.

mike · « **Reply #4 on:** March 24, 2004, 19:31:00 »

sounds somewhat like my situation, first applied for reg force infantry about 2.5 yrs ago and just as you were, told to come back 6 months after all was cleared in the courts. re-applied after waiting the correct amount of time, waited and waited for a call to come, finally moved to b.c. (originally from wpg) to start our own business, then ironically i recieved a call from cfrc approx 2 weeks after we had gotten settled from our move etc. i then decided to give our business a go instead of continuing the application process (health and fitness club so fitness is not a problem!!) but still found myself talking nonstop to my wife about how if i don‘t at least try and get in i‘m going to go through life wondering, "what if". and also just as happened to you, the enhanced reliability check is now in effect!!
i‘d like to know who else is in our boat!!!!

Exvitae · « **Reply #5 on:** March 24, 2004, 20:52:00 »

I, too, am worried about the enhanced reliability check because I have bad credit. (My experience of being self-employed did not work out at all.)

I really hope they can look at extenuating circumstances and realize that nothing fraudulent or criminal occured - business just didn‘t work out the way I expected it to.

Got my test on tuesday and my medical the week after.

mm

GrahamD · « **Reply #6 on:** March 24, 2004, 23:42:00 »

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Originally posted by Exvitae:
[qb] I, too, am worried about the enhanced reliability check because I have bad credit. (My experience of being self-employed did not work out at all.)

I really hope they can look at extenuating circumstances and realize that nothing fraudulent or criminal occured - business just didn‘t work out the way I expected it to.

Got my test on tuesday and my medical the week after.

mm [/qb]

The credit is only a portion of what they look at. They understand that most people have some form of debt to deal with.

As long as you don‘t have severe debt, that you‘ve never tried to pay down, then you‘re probably in the clear.
I myself am paying a collection agency for a defaulted student loan, and even that combined with a criminal record did not prevent me from gaining Enhanced Reliability Status.

My conclusion on the subject is that the CFRC knows that people make mistakes in life, and so long as you have learned from the mistakes and have demonstrated change, they are willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.

As for:

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I really hope they can look at extenuating circumstances and realize that nothing fraudulent or criminal occured - business just didn‘t work out the way I expected it to.

They do not investigate you and gather evidence with which to press charges. If there is no criminal record they will not assume you are a fraud or a criminal.
I don‘t know if you‘ve ever seen what a credit report looks like, but it only contains numbers, dates, and credit institution names.
It gives no deatils of "what" happened, so whatever you tell them they will take at face value.
They will know the exact months you forgot to pay a credit card on time, or missed a loan payment etc., but they don‘t care, as long as you didn‘t stop paying all together.

Goober · « **Reply #7 on:** September 27, 2004, 11:01:21 »

I read the FAQ and I couldn't find a difinitive answer for this question. Is the credit check apart of the background check?

Reason I ask is, I just called the RC and they said my background check came back OK, now they are just waiting for my medical. So now I wonder if a credit check was completed. I have an outstanding student loan, but have already made arrangements to pay, and I informed the RC of this during my interview.

I just want to know how close I am to getting in, and don't want any surprises delaying my file.

hiv · « **Reply #8 on:** September 27, 2004, 13:14:34 »

A lot of people have student loans and they joined without a problem. Just be patient, the process takes time. When I joined it took me 8 months from the day I walked into the recruiting centre to the day I left for basic training. Your rainbow will come

Scott · « **Reply #9 on:** September 27, 2004, 13:47:34 »

They just want to know that you are not going to be a financial/administrative burden on them. I was told that even an unpaid parking ticket is enough to raise eyebrows. This may seem far fetched but I got it from the recruiter....believe or not.

Morpheus32 · « **Reply #10 on:** October 01, 2004, 01:16:22 »

Everything is up for discussion with your military career councillor. If you had some bad debt, tell him/her about what happened and what you are doing about. Debt is a fact of life. As long as you are doing something about it maturely, it is not really an issue. If you just don't feel like dealing with your debt or decided the cops were wrong to give you that ticket so you aren't paying....the MCC is going to scratch their head and starting thinking about your maturity and more importantly how you are dealing with the problem. You can't just decide not to do stuff in the military so how you handle your own affairs is indicitive of how you will handle yourself in the CF.

Credit check is part of the enhanced reliablity screening. You sign the form that had all the areas that you had to initial. If you have some debt issues, best to discuss it when asked in your interview.

Jeff

ex MCC

ppcli · « **Reply #11 on:** January 13, 2005, 19:51:47 »

Exactly what is looked at for an enhanced reliability check - I know there is a criminal background check and a credit bureau check, but is there anything else?

Navalsnipr · « **Reply #12 on:** January 13, 2005, 19:58:50 »

I think that it is just about it.

garb811 · « **Reply #13 on:** January 14, 2005, 06:12:38 »

When you sign your Personel Screening Consent and Authorization From you will initial beside all the items which may be checked in the course of determining if you can be granted an ERC and/or Security Clearance. In addition to the Criminal and Credit checks there is also Personal Data, Education, Professional Qualifications, Employment History, Character Refs etc.

If you've already signed the consent then you've signed something you didn't understand. If you kept your copy, pull it out and have a read of it.

Moobus · « **Reply #14 on:** February 24, 2005, 06:54:25 »

Well, I've decided to send off an application from England, in the hopes that most of the process will be done when I get back home. Since I've been living here for about a year now, it appears that I'll have to fill out the long form for a background check. Problem is, I can't find a copy of it online, and I don't exactly live near a CF recruiter. Can anyone direct me to the form?

(On a related note, do online samples of filled out forms exist? There are a couple of fields I'm not certain on, and if I imagine that the slightest imperfection could delay my application by at least the time of two ocean crossings.)

Pieman · « **Reply #15 on:** February 24, 2005, 23:01:38 »

Moobus,

Are you sure you can apply from there? When I first tried to apply I was out of the country, and the recruiters said I could not until I returned to Canada...don't let this keep you from trying to apply, just forewarning you that it may not pan out.

Pieman

Cpl Bloggins · « **Reply #16 on:** March 03, 2005, 08:58:36 »

I actually had a question about that form.

I was just looking it over trying to remember what I wrote (I had to fill one out over a year ago for my security clearance) and noticed that the form is slightly different then the one I filled out. I filled out a long paper with alot of orange writing, and then I believe they changed something to do everything electronically cause the clerks in my OR then moved all the info onto a similar looking paper as the one in the link.

However, there are several sections in that form which I don't remember filling out. Would this be a major problem, or would it be enough that I filled out the old form?

(BTW, my security clearance check should be almost completed, as my referances have already been interviewed etc., so I would think that if it was a problem they would've have sent it back right away.) Just wondering though.

army_paralegal (Banned) · « **Reply #17 on:** March 26, 2005, 11:08:35 »

I under stand that in the ERC, they confirm employment information.

Cna anyone tell me how exactly they do that. Do they call my employer?

kincanucks · « **Reply #18 on:** March 27, 2005, 00:04:50 »

Quote from: army_paralegal on March 26, 2005, 11:08:35

I under stand that in the ERC, they confirm employment information.

Cna anyone tell me how exactly they do that. Do they call my employer?

We may if we have any suspicions about your reliability. However, we do this only if absolutely necessary as we don't want get anyone in trouble at work because they haven't told their employers about their application.

army_paralegal (Banned) · « **Reply #19 on:** March 28, 2005, 22:15:40 »

The recruiter needs the Questionnaire, Personnel Security Assessment form for the QYR.

The form I currently have is labeled TBS/SCT 330-23E, which I assume is similar to the above form.

Do I have the right form? Are they the same form?

kincanucks · « **Reply #20 on:** March 28, 2005, 22:33:58 »

Personnel Screening, Consent and Authorization Form (TBS/SCT 330-23e) is the form you need to fill out with your addresses, birth date, names, etc.

Love793 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 29, 2005, 08:06:42 »

The form has changed since the brochure was released. Are you speaking of the black QYR brochure or the Recruiting Centre "Strong and Proud" one?

MdB · « **Reply #22 on:** March 30, 2005, 10:46:34 »

That's good news for me!! Since they do the pre-security check, hope this is also true for this check. My boss would kick me out of my job, he's anti-military to the bone. So I keep it quiet, really quiet.

army_paralegal (Banned) · « **Reply #23 on:** March 31, 2005, 11:38:33 »

On one of the required sheets for recruiting, they ask for home addresses for the last ten years.

On that section, I list my last home address for ten years ago. The problem is, on the postal code, I got JUST ONE (The very last digit) of the postal code digits wrong.

My question is, is that a Problem because I just handed in my application.

yukon · « **Reply #24 on:** March 31, 2005, 11:42:29 »

I'd say inform the recruiting center of your error as soon as possible and make the proper amendments, no harm in that is there?

Also, just in case you need it for future reference you can go to the Canada Post website to search for old postal codes, came in handy when i filled in my app before sending it off. http://www.canadapost.com/

cheers.

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Author Topic: Security Clearance - ERC - Enhanced Reliability Check (Read 90978 times)

Exvitae

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