Author Topic: Pay Rates and Allowances (Read 10475 times)

future ex combat arms · « **on:** April 11, 2004, 18:29:00 »

If you look on the pay scales for a reg force NCM member you see an incentive pay category, for private its 1-3 and from corp and up its basic then 1-4. How long would it usually take a private to move up in the incentive category?
thanks

-Skeletor- · « **Reply #1 on:** April 11, 2004, 18:39:00 »

with each year you‘ve been in, you move up in pay

when you join, your a P1 pay, after you‘ve been in a year, your get P2 pay, etc

once you‘ve been a private for 3 years, theres no more pay raises for time-in, the next big pay raise would be when your promoted to Cpl

future ex combat arms · « **Reply #2 on:** April 11, 2004, 18:48:00 »

Thanks alot D-N-A.

*CDN*Blackhawk · « **Reply #3 on:** April 12, 2004, 13:27:00 »

The recruiters told me that u would recieve a pay raise after Basic training by going to the next lvl of private for pay.

-Skeletor- · « **Reply #4 on:** April 12, 2004, 18:30:00 »

when you first join up, your a Private(Recruit), after your basic training, you become a Private(Trained), theres a bit of a pay increase there

Cpl Bloggins · « **Reply #5 on:** April 12, 2004, 19:45:00 »

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Originally posted by D-n-A:
[qb] when you first join up, your a Private(Recruit), after your basic training, you become a Private(Trained), theres a bit of a pay increase there [/qb]

What? Unless I‘m mistaken, you become a private (trained) and get your hook after completing your MOC training. Your pay increase comes once you‘ve been in a year.

kaspacanada · « **Reply #6 on:** April 12, 2004, 20:03:00 »

Last I saw, in the reg force you didn‘t get a hook until you‘d had a year after being trained. The reserves work differently, or at least all the units I worked with and have seen did.

-Skeletor- · « **Reply #7 on:** April 12, 2004, 20:07:00 »

I‘m going by how it is in the reserve

also, a Private(Trained) doesnt get a hook, a Private(Basic) does though

Cpl Bloggins · « **Reply #8 on:** April 12, 2004, 20:10:00 »

Um, so am I

and wtf is a private(basic)?
*recalls rank structure pushups*
private recruit....private trained...corporal...
nope, not there

kaspacanada · « **Reply #9 on:** April 12, 2004, 20:28:00 »

When I finished QL3 reserve infantry, I got a hook and a small pay raise. That was private trained. My course was combined QL2/3 infantry. A Private, with just basic training (QL2) doesn‘t get a hook. I got a raise after my first year. And again in my second year, and again in my third year as a reservist. Then I left the reserves for the regular force.

Just a note, they‘ve apparently changed a lot of the qualification names since I did my course. So who knows what they call basic and trained today.

kaspacanada · « **Reply #10 on:** April 12, 2004, 20:34:00 »

When you are a Private Recruit, doing your first phase of training, you are doing your ‘basic‘. You are still a Private Recruit. You then move on to your trade training which for me, was reserve infantry. When I finished that, I was Private trained and got my hook.

George Wallace · « **Reply #11 on:** March 10, 2006, 13:40:46 »

Merged

Officer Entry Plans (Regular Force)

Response to a previous poster:

I was going to say "Simply look up at the bottom what Letter matches your Plan" but it looks like someone in Recruiting or with access to DAODs will have to answer as these are the current programs/plans listed:

A - ROTP (former CBI 204.2111 & 204.2151)
B - OCTP-NFS (former CBI 204.2113 & 204.2153)
C - DEO (former CBI 204.2114 & 204.2154)
D - UTP-NCM / OCTP-FS (former CBI 204.2112, 204.21135, 204.2152 & 204.21535)
E - CFR (former CBI 204.212)

Once you find out what corresponding Letter your Plan is listed as, just apply it to the OCdt and later the Pilot charts.

mbhabfan · « **Reply #12 on:** March 10, 2006, 13:43:09 »

thanks for the information. Under the CEOTP I am an officer cadet until my wings or university degree?

George Wallace · « **Reply #13 on:** March 10, 2006, 13:54:59 »

If you have a Message, it will have the Pay Scale that you will be paid, somewhere in the narrative.

mbhabfan · « **Reply #14 on:** March 10, 2006, 14:13:08 »

what "message" are you referring to?

George Wallace · « **Reply #15 on:** March 10, 2006, 15:52:45 »

When you get your paperwork finalized and you are ready to go, you should also have a copy of your Posting Message. On it, it should state what your Pay Scale will be and the Authority by which it is granted. That will tell the Pay Clerks at the Base what they need to know to pay you the correct amounts.

Supra · « **Reply #16 on:** April 15, 2009, 03:33:36 »

I've seen a few threads that have referenced this one in regards to pay scales, the old guys giving new guys trouble for asking questions then tell them to "go to this thread" and so when someone does that, if you check none of the links in said thread are working so that kind of makes it difficult to not annoy some of you.

NFLD Sapper · « **Reply #17 on:** April 15, 2009, 08:53:10 »

There has been many threads on pay and allowances, and yes some links are out dated thanks to the new look and feel on the DND sites.

So here is (hopefully) the end all link for the pay and allowances questions. Director General Compensation and Benefits click on the appropriate link to answer your question.

MODS, maybe this response should be stickied and placed in the FAQ section too?

EDITED TO ADD

WTG in resurrecting a 3 yr old thread.

George Wallace · « **Reply #18 on:** April 15, 2009, 09:08:54 »

There is another Topic that trys to keep the latest link to these. Unfortunately, the link will change annually with every change in pay rates.

Good luck

PS. If you wish to volunteer to keep the link to the most recent Pay Scales, your cooperation would be greatly appreciated. Are you going to remain a member of this site until such time that the CF ceases to give pay raises?

Hatchet Man · « **Reply #19 on:** April 15, 2009, 22:26:02 »

Not mention there is also this very nifty site called "google". Its like using the search function here, but it searchs other websites, based on things called "keywords", its quite ingenious actually. I typed in "Canadian Forces Pay Scale" and right near the top was this link http://www.forces.ca/html/payscales_en.aspx to what appears to be an official government site (that is probably kept updated regularly), plus it has some nifty little colourful graphs.

George Wallace · « **Reply #20 on:** April 20, 2009, 09:03:40 »

CAUTION

Pay Scales subject to change annually........or without warning.

CF Programs and Services

Current pay rates (2008-2009) are here http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/dgcb-dgras/ps/pay-sol/pr-sol/index-eng.asp

Reserve NCM Class A or B

Regular Force and Reserve Class C NCM Rates

Reserve Class A and Class B Officer Rates

Regular Force and Reserve Class C Officer Rates

Dariusz · « **Reply #21 on:** April 20, 2009, 10:15:20 »

Quote from: George Wallace on March 10, 2006, 13:40:46

I was going to say "Simply look up at the bottom what Letter matches your Plan" but it looks like someone in Recruiting or with access to DAODs will have to answer as these are the current programs/plans listed:

A - ROTP (former CBI 204.2111 & 204.2151)
B - OCTP-NFS (former CBI 204.2113 & 204.2153)
C - DEO (former CBI 204.2114 & 204.2154)
D - UTP-NCM / OCTP-FS (former CBI 204.2112, 204.21135, 204.2152 & 204.21535)
E - CFR (former CBI 204.212)

Once you find out what corresponding Letter your Plan is listed as, just apply it to the OCdt and later the Pilot charts.

What category would be CEOTP? When I asked at the CFRC regarding CEOTP payscale(A-E) after promotion to 2Lt, I was advised that they only knew the payscale for OCdt(A-B) and that I would have to complete my basic to find out!?!
Does anyone have any specific knowledge regarding this issue?
Any input is greatly appreciated!

Cheers

Dariusz

Wickes · « **Reply #22 on:** April 20, 2009, 17:01:31 »

CEOTP falls under Cat B. Officer Cadet - No Former Service

Just confirmed with the CEOTP 2Lt sitting about 2 feet to my right

LogONick · « **Reply #23 on:** May 03, 2009, 21:57:34 »

Hi, I am loaded into the Aug 31 BMOQ, going Reg Force, DEO Log-O, just curious where DEO stands for OCdt, is it Level A or B. I am married, with a son and own a home.
I don t particularly care which, just would make it easier for budgeting between now and then. Thanks for the info and help! Cheers!

JBoyd · « **Reply #24 on:** May 03, 2009, 22:17:33 »

Current Pay Scales for RegF Officers

http://www.forces.ca/media/_PDF/PayScalesOffReg_en.pdf

Includes both RMC and DEO Salaries

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