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Re: Allergy to Penicillin....?
« Reply #50 on: December 16, 2004, 22:16:47 »
For starters, are ID discs arn't two peices like the americans.  They are one peice with the ID discs connceted top to botton so one can be broken off and the other stays with the body.  Im sure there are some pictures around somewherem or do a search on google and you'll know what I mean.

Im guessing you could wear it around your neck or on the chain, but I wouldn't want two peices of metal clinging against on another so I woudl prefer to keep mine on my wrist.
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Re: Allergy to Penicillin....?
« Reply #51 on: December 16, 2004, 22:32:24 »
well thats something i never knew, i check it out from google and i see what ya mean, i'd just stick with it on my wrist then,

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Re: Allergy to Penicillin....?
« Reply #52 on: December 20, 2004, 13:19:48 »
Please make sure your looking at the Canadian Medic Alert Foundation website at www.medicalert.ca

and not at the the US medicalert.org

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Re: Allergy to Penicillin....?
« Reply #53 on: December 20, 2004, 15:22:30 »
You can order one of those medic alert discs that hang along with your Canadian Identity Discs ("dogtags")

As previously mentioned, I had no problems joining with a suspected allergy to penicillin. According to the forces allergist I finally met up with, he also indicated to me that if you havent had an allergic reaction to it in the last 5 years, even if y ou did previously, chances are you arent allergic anymore anyway. food for thought...

but yeah, no geo/aircrew issues/moc classification issues that I had anyway.


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Re: Allergy to Penicillin....?
« Reply #54 on: December 21, 2004, 00:05:12 »
Just want to jump back in here and clarify what you'll be getting if you order through the CF.  It's a stainless steel necklet.  Not the "dog tag" shown earlier in the thread.  Your information will be right on the necklet.
I refer you to CFMO 29-12 (Interim) and to following unclassified message.

 Unclas
6500-1
100955Z Jul 00
Routine

CFMGHQ OTTAWA
AIG 1727
CMED PETAWAWA

DGHS/D MED POL
CFMGHQ/HS DEL
BILINGUAL MESSAGE/MESSAGE BILINGUE

SUBJ: MEDICALERT WARNING DEVICE
REF: CFMO 29-12 (INTERIM)

1. THIS IS A COMBINED D MED POL/CFMGHQ G4 MESSAGE.

2. STARTING 1 AUG 2000, A NEW PROCEDURE FOR PROCUREMENT OF SUBJ ITEM WILL BE IN EFFECT. THE INTERIM POLICY AND PROCEDURE DOCUMENT CAN BE FOUND AT REF AND IT SHALL SUPERCEDE CURRENT CFMO 29-12.

3. IN SHORT, MED UNITS WILL:

A. ADVISE AND ASSIST CF MBR IN COMPLETION OF REVISED CFMO 29-12 ANNEX A (REF).

B. PREAUTHORIZE PAYMENT OF INDIVIDUAL WARNING DEVICE THRU BLUE CROSS,

C. FORWARD ANNEX A TO CDN MEDICALERT FOUNDATION (CMAF), AUTHORIZING ISSUE OF WARNING DEVICE DIRECTLY TO MBR'S ADDRESS, AND

D. ENSURE COMPLETED CFMO 29-12 ANNEX A IS PLACED ON MBR'S CF 2034.

4. MBR WILL:

A. COMPLETE ANNEX A AND GET RECOMMENDATION FROM M.O.,

B. COMPLETE ANNUAL CMAF UPDATE WHEN PROVIDED, AND

C. CONTACT CMAF DIRECTLY IF WARNING DEVICE NOT RECEIVED WITHIN 30 DAYS FROM ORDER DATE.

5. ONLY THE STAINLESS STEEL NECKLET IS AUTHORIZED. BY EXCEPTION BLACK SPORT BRACELET MAY BE AUTHORIZED FOR MEDICAL REASONS LISTED AT REF.

6. CMED PETAWAWA WILL NO LONGER BE INVOLVED IN THE PAYMENT OR DELIVERY OF MEDICALERT WARNING DEVICES EXCEPT FOR THOSE ORDERED PRIOR TO 1 AUG 00.

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Re: Allergy to Penicillin....?
« Reply #55 on: December 22, 2004, 06:28:02 »
I'm also allergic to penicillin (among a couple other antibiotics) and have not had a problem at all, and was cleared for all trades after my medical. Just make sure, as was mentioned, to have a medic alert bracelet, and be sure to mention it anytime you go in to see a doctor, medic or other health care professional. While it should be on your documents, and they should always ask, mistakes can happen, and you want to be sure. One time, a doctor handed me a prescription for penicillin, even though the allergy was written in bright red at the top of my file. Just make sure to look after yourself.
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Re: Allergy to Penicillin....?
« Reply #56 on: December 22, 2004, 11:50:21 »
Hmm.  When we were going through the needle parade the first time, they asked us about allergies.  A few of us indicated an allergy to penicillin when we were younger, and the nurse at the MIR told us that a) it wasn't a problem in the least, and b) a medic alert bracelet was not required.  Now, this thread makes me think otherwise.  Perhaps I should look into this further.

As well, does anybody happen to know how a person would go about allergy testing (if I wanted to confirm that I am still allergic)?  Would it be something I could do through the MIR, or would I have to talk to them about getting it done at a private clinic and get approval for something like that.


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Re: Allergy to Penicillin....?
« Reply #57 on: December 22, 2004, 12:30:47 »
Apparently you did not see my notes somewhere else about discussions with an allergist :)

WHen I got in, I asked about the medic alert and was told to see a doc. The doc said I should get it checked with an allergy speciailist who came in weekly. Saw him, He said I had nothing to worry about, and that most people lose allergies if ther ehave been no symptoms in the last 5 years... He told me even if I had been on my deathbed when I was 8 from Penicillin that I could give it a go 5 years later...

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Re: Allergy to Penicillin....?
« Reply #58 on: December 22, 2004, 12:45:19 »
Penicillin allergies are fairly common, and have been known to fade over time.

Hoser, you should be able to book an appointment with a specialist through your MIR/CDU, but you will probably need to see a GDMO or PA first for the referral.

My advice to all of you in the CF with allergies is to get a Medic Alert tag, and wear the thing religiously, esp while deployed.  Many of our allies have battlefield wound kits that include a couple different types of pain-killers, and some very broad spectrum antibiotics.  It is entirely possible for you to be lying on the ground wounded, and have a medic walk by and pump you full of a penicillin-like antibiotic long before you get evacuated to a treatment facility.  Wounded people who are suffering from anaphylaxis or a drug reaction have a nasty tendency to die.

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Re: Allergy to Penicillin....?
« Reply #59 on: December 22, 2004, 13:23:10 »
Well that was a sobering thought...

On the topic of medic alerts bracelets... one sergeant gave us a great reason to wear our "dogtags" all the time... your blood type is right on it.....  If you are in a car accident, every minute counts... why not help them out with your blood type?

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« Reply #60 on: March 09, 2005, 13:25:52 »
It's kinda funny, I carry an epi pen, because of my allergy to peanuts; my doctor told me it was originally invented by the military, for the military. I'm heading to the recruiting station in 2 days, I'll be sure to explain this.

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Re: My dream is crashing.
« Reply #61 on: March 09, 2005, 14:27:12 »
It's kinda funny, I carry an epi pen, because of my allergy to peanuts; my doctor told me it was originally invented by the military, for the military. I'm heading to the recruiting station in 2 days, I'll be sure to explain this.

By all means.  The recruiters LOVE it when civillians come in and tell them how to do things...   ::)

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Medical issue
« Reply #62 on: July 12, 2005, 21:02:56 »
ok ppl i have a serious problem here and would appreciate some advice and/or suggestions...ok so it took me 9 months to take all the tests and the trips to fill out my booklet, orientation etc. The final part of my process was the medical issue in Ottawa ( allergy to certain type of nut) , it got send back 6 weeks later and told me i didnt meet thier standards because i was allergic. this is something i cant control...if theres somehting i can do to make my self unallergic then fck id work on it everyday. soldiers, help me out here, i dont wanna do all that for nothing, i got so ****ed over and the waiting as been eternally long!....thank you
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Re: Medical issue
« Reply #63 on: July 12, 2005, 21:36:57 »
OK, Tang, I'll field this one.

you didn't get "Fcked over" here, you were found medically unfit to be a soldier.  This isn't some great conspiracy to keep you out of the CAF after your relatively short "eternally long" 9 month wait.

There are treatments available to reduce allergies to some agents, talk to your doctor.  They may, or may not, reduce your reactions to this specific allergen.

Personally, the more people with underlying medical concerns the recruiting process weeds out saves me and my co workers a huge amount of time, effort, worry, and grief.

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Re: Medical issue
« Reply #64 on: July 12, 2005, 21:45:01 »
Risk management deems that - better safe now than your family (heirs et al)  be sorry.
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Re: Medical issue
« Reply #65 on: July 12, 2005, 21:49:22 »
ok so the recruiter told me this is a long term thing, i understand. Waiting is not the problem anymore, i wanted to get in for march last Nov, but Feb 2005 was when i got enough credits to get my transcripts, now the day the summer course started was the date i got the rejection letter, i do not care how long it takes anymore i just want to be accepted into the CF,

Btw i dont even need a fckn epi-pen for my issue, i was assigned to one "jus in case" something happens and i thought it was a good thing to carry one. Apperently they did not accept me because they think that the epi-pen was a big issue. If i reverse my answer they would thin i am lying..what should i do??
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Re: Medical issue
« Reply #66 on: July 12, 2005, 21:52:06 »
Join the chess club for now, and see if alternative treatment will eliminate or reduce your alergies.

Last thing you need is to go in to an anaphylactic shock with a live weapon in hand.


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Re: Medical issue
« Reply #67 on: July 13, 2005, 00:05:28 »
Here's a link to Anaphylaxis information. 

http://www.allergyfoundation.ca/public_information.html#Anaphylaxis

Just because you don't need a fckin' epipen now, doesn't mean you won't need one later.

This is one of those conditions that, the better the afflicted understands their condition, the longer they tend to live and that's in the civi world with faster ambulances, shorter response times, and shorter transports to hospital

Each reaction is worse then the previous one; they don't always present the same; most people who die of this do so long before an ambulance or medic get anywhere near them.

What should you do? 

Carry your epipen.  Get a medic-alert bracelet.  See your doctor about a possible desensitization course.

But what the hell do I know,  I'm just a fckn medic trying to help out with this.

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Re: Medical issue
« Reply #68 on: July 13, 2005, 00:34:39 »
Hey guys,

Don't mean to hijack this thread but here I go...I have my medical scheduled for next Tuesday July 19, and the recruiter told me to bring in an allergy sheet from a doctor when I come in. I told her I have seasonal allergies (hayfever). Does anyone know exactly what it is they need? I don't currently have a doctor so will I need to be tested for allergies or can I just tell them what my allergies are? I am going to try to contact the last family doctor I had to see if this information exists.

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Re: Medical issue
« Reply #69 on: July 13, 2005, 01:12:20 »
well im not about to give up. This site has also helped me out alot and i appreciate all the help and comments here. there r some ppl who got it worse then i did. But u guys think if i kept fighting it with many ways, i cud styll get in? i mean i can wait maybe for another 2 yrs. and since i kno where i screwed up and how everything works, i am thinking of re-applying in another recruiting centre registering at where my dad lives (kitchener) tell me what u guys think...
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Re: Medical issue
« Reply #70 on: July 13, 2005, 01:25:35 »
Tang.  No one here is going to advise you to wait and try another centre.  Do you think that by doing that...and lying on a new application you are going to get through the system?  Do you not imagine the military keeps records?  When (notice I didn't say IF) you are caught, what do you imagine will happen?
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Re: Medical issue
« Reply #71 on: July 13, 2005, 01:41:25 »
i dunno cheif, whats the worst that could happen? besides the fact i wont get in. I did ask my recruiter and on the blue book it will ask if i applied be4 and if u say yes then the will def. look at ur old records. but so many ppl apply for the 1st time and want to join, r they seriously going to look at if everyone applied before? i aint tryn to sound cocky or nething, but i dont kno thats y im asking. how does this work? whats the procedure and do you know any1 that has been caught before?
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Re: Medical issue
« Reply #72 on: July 13, 2005, 01:48:13 »
i dunno cheif, whats the worst that could happen? besides the fact i wont get in.

You're right, you won't get in.  And later on in life, after your medical problem has ceased to be a problem, you still won't get in. This time though, it will be because of your previous attempts at fraudulent enrolment.

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Re: Medical issue
« Reply #73 on: July 13, 2005, 02:35:59 »
Don't mean to hijack this thread but here I go...I have my medical scheduled for next Tuesday July 19, and the recruiter told me to bring in an allergy sheet from a doctor when I come in. I told her I have seasonal allergies (hayfever). Does anyone know exactly what it is they need? I don't currently have a doctor so will I need to be tested for allergies or can I just tell them what my allergies are? I am going to try to contact the last family doctor I had to see if this information exists.

It is just a basic test where there prick your arms and check you for a couple dozen things you could be allergic to. Anything from shrimp to peanuts to chocolate.

I had to go to a specialist to get mine because my initial test came back positive, but you can go to a walk-in clinic. Your family doctor would be best.

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Re: Medical issue
« Reply #74 on: July 13, 2005, 02:38:21 »
i dunno cheif, whats the worst that could happen? besides the fact i wont get in. I did ask my recruiter and on the blue book it will ask if i applied be4 and if u say yes then the will def. look at ur old records. but so many ppl apply for the 1st time and want to join, r they seriously going to look at if everyone applied before? i aint tryn to sound cocky or nething, but i dont kno thats y im asking. how does this work? whats the procedure and do you know any1 that has been caught before?

Think long term. You might want to work for the government later on, or have a job that requires a security clearance. Don't screw up your future prospects because of this.

Incidently, try to work on your spelling and grammar. It'll help you out in any career.